Tren Advice Please

**ire** · 02-09-2005, 01:49 PM

Is tren completely out of the question/recommendation to include in a first cycle?

**tycin** · 02-09-2005, 01:51 PM

i personally wouldnt recomned it for a 1st cycle, i know guys have run it for there 1st but... just stick with a single esther test and maybe some dbol for ur 1st cycle.

**bmwrob** · 02-09-2005, 01:53 PM

Well, the reason that everyone suggests test only for a first cycle is because that wy you can guage how you react to AS. If you were to include multiple compounds and then have difficult sides you would not know which compound is causing the bad sides.

**soo2bhuge** · 02-09-2005, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by bmwrob

Well, the reason that everyone suggests test only for a first cycle is because that wy you can guage how you react to AS. If you were to include multiple compounds and then have difficult sides you would not know which compound is causing the bad sides.

exactly. u don't know how u'll react. in fact, i would just run test and that's it for first cycle just to see.

**edmen2** · 02-09-2005, 01:57 PM

another reason its not good for a first cycle is because u have to stick urself everyday. most newbs cant do that. i personally think if u lay ur cycle out properly and do all ur research that tren can be included in a first. if u are unable to handle the sides u can simply stop due to its short half life.

**ire** · 02-09-2005, 02:02 PM

Thanks for the feedback fellas, guess I've forgotten the basic reason for the single ester/1st cycle.
Tren will def be in the 2nd then! I have to say I feel a longing for it somehow...and feel as though I am trying to get 1st cycle out of the way to get to the tren in cycle 2. Is ther something wrong with me, heh?

**ire** · 02-09-2005, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by edmen2

another reason its not good for a first cycle is because u have to stick urself everyday. most newbs cant do that. i personally think if u lay ur cycle out properly and do all ur research that tren can be included in a first. if u are unable to handle the sides u can simply stop due to its short half life.

My cycle:
1-15 Test E 125mg EOD = 500mg/wk
1-4 Test Prop 50mg/ED = 350mg/wk
14-17 Test Prop 50mg/ED = 350mg/wk

I really wanted some tren in there...

**tycin** · 02-09-2005, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by ire

My cycle:
1-15 Test E 125mg EOD = 500mg/wk
1-4 Test Prop 50mg/ED = 350mg/wk
14-17 Test Prop 50mg/ED = 350mg/wk

I really wanted some tren in there...

no need to shoot the test e eod, i would just pick 2 days of the week and inject it. u have pct lined up right? and ur taking anti-e?

**ire** · 02-09-2005, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by tycin

no need to shoot the test e eod, i would just pick 2 days of the week and inject it. u have pct lined up right? and ur taking anti-e?

Doing EOD on the test e to avoid any potential sides-keep blood stable.
&
PCT=300,100,50 Clomid/Novla 20mg
AI=ldex .25 - .5mg/ED

**tycin** · 02-09-2005, 02:30 PM

ur blood levels will stay stable if shooting twice a week, the half life of test e is long enough to do so.

**ire** · 02-09-2005, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by tycin

ur blood levels will stay stable if shooting twice a week, the half life of test e is long enough to do so.

I know the hl of test e is stated to be long enough. After seeing so many bro's complain about test, test sides, won put test again in their cycles, etc- I believe that it may not be directly how they react to test but that they may be seeing the sides from running injects too far apart-as the complaints were always from ppl who shot twice a week enan.

**bor** · 02-09-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by ire

I know the hl of test e is stated to be long enough. After seeing so many bro's complain about test, test sides, won put test again in their cycles, etc- I believe that it may not be directly how they react to test but that they may be seeing the sides from running injects too far apart-as the complaints were always from ppl who shot twice a week enan.

They are not running injects too far apart, shoot it twice a week bro, don't overcomplicate things

**tycin** · 02-09-2005, 02:52 PM

ya i guess it wont hurt, keep us posted with ur results.

**ire** · 02-09-2005, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by bor

They are not running injects too far apart, shoot it twice a week bro, don't overcomplicate things

Not overcomplicating but compensating.
Has no-one tried running enan EOD? I mean, look at the wonders shooting prop ED versus EOD has helped so many bro's to a much better cycle with no sides to very few.

Additionally, here are quotes from some trusted bro's on this board regarding prop ed vs eod. And even enan...

I'll tell ya I am running prop @ 100mg ED and there is a big
difference in how I feel compared to when I have ran it EOD or E3D,
I feel much better mentally and physically with the ED injections.

It's how the ester release the hormone into the blood stream

2 weeks into my first prop cycle I switched from EOD to ED
injections and will never inject EOD again. There is a tremendous
difference.

I know when I shoot Prop EOD I get more acne, higher bp causing me
to sweat more, more water retention...
When I shoot ED I get no sides at all at the same dose cut in half
for ED injects.. in my mind that points to more stable blood
levels. I even shoot Enanthate EOD because I find I get less sides
and I'm just more comfortable in general while on.