prop

**Stephan** · 02-10-2005, 02:24 PM

I am in the middle of my fourth week...this is my cycle...75mg prop ed...400mg eq a week...I cant tell any difference...I havent gained any weight and I cant tell anything...is it too early or should I be seeing results...and what kind of results should I see should my muscles be getting hard???

**juiceinthehood** · 02-10-2005, 02:27 PM

4 weeks on prop and no gains u got bunk gear bro prop is a short ester its kicks in quick eq takes about 5 weeks but u should have gained from the prop
are u eating and training right that is what will make u grow steroids just speed up the process

**BodyMechanic** · 02-10-2005, 02:29 PM

if your diet and training are in check and you are not feeling anything not even increase strength or sex drive it could be your gear.

**PlasticFuture112** · 02-10-2005, 03:13 PM

sorry bro but you definatelly got some bunk gear. I used prop at the same dosage and i noticed results 5 days into it. also training and diet could still be wacked and you would get some difference in body mass. Sorry to hear about your situation but thats why research and this forum was made. You may still notice results on the eq but its doubtful that you will see anything from the prop. sorry bro.

**mule1983** · 02-10-2005, 03:51 PM

burn man...sorry to hear that if your gear really is bunk

**Starkraven** · 02-10-2005, 04:14 PM

ok hold on. you havent gained ANY weight? its not your gear, its your diet. sorry. you need to eat ALOT more. even if your natural, in 4 weeks, you would have gained something being on a bulk.

**Vegas67** · 02-10-2005, 04:27 PM

That sucks..I have been there with some bunk EQ...why is it always the ED sticks that are fake??? Whats the brand?

**GetPumped** · 02-10-2005, 04:32 PM

**** bro....4 weeks on prop and you haven't gained ANY weight at ALL??? IF you are eating right you should have gained at least 5 lbs if not more. Sounds like your gear is bunk. Post a pic of your gear and we can tell you if it looks bunk to us. But it is easy to tell bunk gear just by results. if you aren't seeing any results and your diet and training are in check then your gear is bunk.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 02-10-2005, 04:45 PM

Bro, you also have to remember, most weight early on from Test is water weight. With Prop, you have less of a chance to gain water weight and your EQ hasn't even kicked in yet. The first thing I notice is an increase in my sex drive and your strength should be going up.

**Teamupjohn** · 02-10-2005, 04:54 PM

How long can prop be ran by itself for a 1st time cycle?

**Vegas67** · 02-10-2005, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Teamupjohn

How long can prop be ran by itself for a 1st time cycle?

As long as you can take the ED sticks bro. 8-10 weeks is a good starter.

**Thrower74** · 02-10-2005, 05:45 PM

After 4 weeks of prop you should definitly be feeling something. Even if your diet and training are poor you should at least be feeling abig surge in your sex drive.

**juiceinthehood** · 02-10-2005, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Thrower74

After 4 weeks of prop you should definitly be feeling something. Even if your diet and training are poor you should at least be feeling abig surge in your sex drive.

definetely

**Stephan** · 02-10-2005, 06:12 PM

I think my gear is real... the other day when I worked out it seemed like I had crazy pumps... I can tell a slight diff in my sex drive...my appitite hasnt been that hungry... When I did my last cycle of tes e deca my appitite was crazy hungry...does the prop make you really hungry like that?

**joevette** · 02-10-2005, 06:46 PM

I notice an increase in my sexdrive the first week or so on prop.

**alluprbdy** · 02-10-2005, 06:51 PM

one thing you can do is taste your gear belive test is supposed to be real bitter, I've never tasted test myself but that is just something i've heard.

**FRANK WHITE** · 02-10-2005, 06:57 PM

Doesn't sound right. I'd check my gear.

**XxElitexX** · 02-10-2005, 07:04 PM

i am 4 wks into my 100mg EOD cycle of prop and i have gained 11 ibs. i would say it is your gear.

**mark956101957** · 02-10-2005, 07:39 PM

After 4 weeks you should have some weight gain and strength. I say bunk- sorry bro..

**Moosepellet** · 02-10-2005, 08:29 PM

Your stuff has got to be bunk or your diet really sucks. Get your diet into check, post the pics of your gear. Maybe someone will be able to give you some answers.

**Stephan** · 02-10-2005, 09:29 PM

this is my diet... I dont want to eat junk because I wont to get lean I dont want to get alot of body fat like i did on my last cycle... I wake up and drink a protien shake...for lunch i eat a sub from subway for dinner I eat pasta or something...that is my diet...

**jaffry20** · 02-10-2005, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Stephan

this is my diet... I dont want to eat junk because I wont to get lean I dont want to get alot of body fat like i did on my last cycle... I wake up and drink a protien shake...for lunch i eat a sub from subway for dinner I eat pasta or something...that is my diet...

HOLY fuk dog, yeah you DEFINETLY need more food, carbs, cals, protein, chek out the diet forum DEFINETLY.

**Stephan** · 02-10-2005, 11:08 PM

here are pics of my gear I know there real

**IGOTJUICE007** · 02-10-2005, 11:16 PM

Didnt even know brovel was still around.....all i know is about 3 yrs ago......there were so many counterfits of all brovel products....whats the exp date?

Did they come in their respective boxes sealed or loose?

**Stephan** · 02-10-2005, 11:44 PM

everything is in mexican it says dic 2005

**IGOTJUICE007** · 02-10-2005, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stephan

everything is in mexican it says dic 2005

I know its mexican....QV Stan, Brovel Prop, Sydgroup EQ.....did they come in boxes.

**tycin** · 02-10-2005, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stephan

this is my diet... I dont want to eat junk because I wont to get lean I dont want to get alot of body fat like i did on my last cycle... I wake up and drink a protien shake...for lunch i eat a sub from subway for dinner I eat pasta or something...that is my diet...

thats ur main problem right there!! bro u need to b eating 8 meals a day bringind in at least 4k cals. check out the diet forum stickies they have great info and sample diets. ur diet u listed probably only brings in 1000cals, im bringing in probably around 5-6k cals a day.

**Stephan** · 02-10-2005, 11:54 PM

yeah but i dont want to gain any weight i just want to get muscle

**IGOTJUICE007** · 02-10-2005, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stephan

yeah but i dont want to gain any weight i just want to get muscle

bro, i have asked twice, was your gear sealed in their boxes....Im trying to help you out here...a lil cooperation would be nice

**Glock-19** · 02-11-2005, 12:00 AM

Try winstrol if your want to harden your muscles. It worked for me without test at all. Try drinking 25mg's every 8 hours ed of injectable vet. You will feel like a brick **** house, oho and listen to the vets and run test with it.

**Stephan** · 02-11-2005, 12:03 AM

the winstrol was sealed in the box but the eq and the prop were not...they just had a piece of tape over the top

**tycin** · 02-11-2005, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Stephan

yeah but i dont want to gain any weight i just want to get muscle

well by gaining muscle ur gon gain weight! and either way ur not gain muscle if u dont eat. maybe u should think about creatine and deit and skip the juice.

**tycin** · 02-11-2005, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Stephan

the winstrol was sealed in the box but the eq and the prop were not...they just had a piece of tape over the top

.
a piece of tape? i would definatley find a new source bro. never take anything not sealed properly, at least with a metal cap on the stopper u peel off.

**Glock-19** · 02-11-2005, 12:07 AM

You will lose weight with the winstrol its documented.

**Glock-19** · 02-11-2005, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Glock-19

You will lose weight with the winstrol its documented.

Fat that is......

**Stephan** · 02-11-2005, 12:08 AM

yeah, i meant there was a piece of tape on the top of the box...he asked me if the box was sealed

**Stephan** · 02-11-2005, 12:14 AM

i hope all of my gear is legit...all my prop injections hurt like hell later in the day...what kind of results shuold I see from the prop...hard muscles...or water retention

**Glock-19** · 02-11-2005, 12:17 AM

You think the prop hurts..lol Just wait till you shoot the winni.

**tycin** · 02-11-2005, 12:19 AM

prop will give lean gains little to no water retention, but u should def feel/see resuclt already. it taeks me 7 days to c something

**jay-d** · 02-11-2005, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by tycin

thats ur main problem right there!! bro u need to b eating 8 meals a day bringind in at least 4k cals. check out the diet forum stickies they have great info and sample diets. ur diet u listed probably only brings in 1000cals, im bringing in probably around 5-6k cals a day.

4k cals a day trying to cut? I dont even eat 4000 cals when bulking much less to cut.

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