1st Cycle.... Did my homework this, is what I came up with (Please critique)

**Meso** · 02-11-2005, 01:26 PM

This is what I've put together still not quite ready to start, need about 1-2 more months.

WK 1-10 Test E 500mg (250 sun/thurs)
WK 1-14 Tamox 10mg ed (+ PCT for 3-4 wks)
WK 1-10 Letro .25-1.25mg ed (dose depending on what I feel necessary)

Questions: 1 Is Clomid necessary?, 2 Would a good multi-vit provide sufficient nutreints if not what?, 3 Is 300mg or 500mg better for a first run test e?

27yrs/5'9"/180lbs/15-17%bf

Goals: to put on some good lean mass, enhance muscle development, and strength.

Still working on diet.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thx,
Meso

**dirtdawg** · 02-11-2005, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Meso

This is what I've put together still not quite ready to start, need about 1-2 more months.

WK 1-10 Test E 500mg (250 sun/thurs)
WK 1-14 Tamox 10mg ed (+ PCT for 3-4 wks)
WK 1-10 Letro .25-1.25mg ed (dose depending on what I feel necessary)

Questions: 1 Is Clomid necessary?, 2 Would a good multi-vit provide sufficient nutreints if not what?, 3 Is 300mg or 500mg better for a first run test e?

27yrs/5'9"/180lbs/15-17%bf

Goals: to put on some good lean mass, enhance muscle development, and strength.

Still working on diet.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thx,
Meso

enth on mon and th, and clomid is necessary

**Mesomorphyl** · 02-11-2005, 01:35 PM

Dang now I will have to type my whole d@mn name out, thanks meso

**marcus300** · 02-11-2005, 01:38 PM

id go with 500mg of test e and run clomid, looks fine.. let us know how you go on

**SwoleDave** · 02-11-2005, 01:43 PM

Clomid is for after you get off, read up on it in the PCT forum

**Consistency** · 02-11-2005, 01:45 PM

u need clomid

**marcus300** · 02-11-2005, 01:46 PM

thats what i ment run clomid pct, am sure he has read up on it

**Susguy** · 02-11-2005, 01:47 PM

clomid is def needed..

**creepS** · 02-11-2005, 02:00 PM

wherever i look it says test should be taken 2x a week(test e). since im going to start simillar cycle in a few weeks, is it possible to take test e in one shot?
im saying this because im a kickboxer and tbh i really dont like syringes.
im not that afraid but whenever i think ill have to pick myself 2 times i roll my eyes in despair. another thing is ,if i pick myself 2 times a week I wont be able to do my kicks so much. i think you understand what im trying to say.
anyone ever used it in one syringe,any particilar side-effects....

**Consistency** · 02-11-2005, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by creepS

wherever i look it says test should be taken 2x a week(test e). since im going to start simillar cycle in a few weeks, is it possible to take test e in one shot?
im saying this because im a kickboxer and tbh i really dont like syringes.
im not that afraid but whenever i think ill have to pick myself 2 times i roll my eyes in despair. another thing is ,if i pick myself 2 times a week I wont be able to do my kicks so much. i think you understand what im trying to say.
anyone ever used it in one syringe,any particilar side-effects....

u have to inject twice a week... if you think it will hurt your kicks, then just inject in the delts, chest, traps, or lats... besides some people here inject 4-5 times a day

**Meso** · 02-11-2005, 11:24 PM

The reason I asked if clomid was necessary, was that I read a report in one of the threads that nolvadex was, as effective; if not more effective for a PCT than clomid. Helping bring up nat' test levels. That was a while ago though.

About 2 shots instead of one: I belive it helps keep a steady level of test in the blood which makes sense to me, (steady test levels = less sides) is that right?

**thewallop** · 02-12-2005, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Meso

The reason I asked if clomid was necessary, was that I read a report in one of the threads that nolvadex was, as effective; if not more effective for a PCT than clomid. Helping bring up nat' test levels. That was a while ago though.

About 2 shots instead of one: I belive it helps keep a steady level of test in the blood which makes sense to me, (steady test levels = less sides) is that right?

u need to use both for pct , novadex is an antiestrogen and clomid brings the test back u dont want to not do the clomid , as far as i know its the most important thing u have to take after ur cycle , go read the pct stickys

shooting test cyp or ent has to be 2 times per week , u have to keep the lvls stable as u stated , jabbin 2 times a week is nothing dude , and shoot in ur shoulders and glut medius . those spots work great for me , no pain at all and im shooting 1 1/2 mil e3d. i hope this helps