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Thread: alternative to clomid and hcg
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03-28-2002, 06:52 PM #1
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03-28-2002, 06:55 PM #2
there is no replacement for clomid. and a50 and deca is not a very good cycle.
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03-28-2002, 07:19 PM #3
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you can try the natural route but it will take quite some time....
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03-28-2002, 11:17 PM #4
U can try BCAAs or EVA(Elk Velvet Antler) which contains high amounts of undenatured BCAAs. Both have been shown in human studies to increase testosterone . EVA in a study has been shown to increase blood plasma testosterone by 5-6 times. Check it at www.qeva.com/research/fisher.htm
My opinion is that Clomid is still the best test recovery tool.
Take plenty of zinc(in picolinate form or in monomethionine/aspartate form in ZMA) which helps support your natural test recovery.
Continue the nolva post cycle. Bill Roberts mentioned that nolva has a similar but much inferior property to Clomid in stimulating test production via LH stimulation.
You shouldn't do deca . Deca suppress your test levels harder than any other 'roid due to its progesterone-like effect on the hypothalamus. You can read this in MM issue May 1997, in an article written by Micheal Mooney. Anadrol too elevates progesterone levels. Do a test enanthate + eq cycle, which will be less harsh.
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03-28-2002, 11:25 PM #5
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There is too much pro-est in that cycle.
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03-29-2002, 11:41 AM #6
in addition to what they said, don't use hcg post cycle. get only clomid and run nolva through clomid therapy.
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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