Why are 17aa's so bad for you?

**newbrew** · 02-24-2005, 09:59 PM

What is it about a 17aa that makes it so bad on the liver? Any of you have the scientific knowledge to answer this?

thanks

***BajanBastard*** · 02-24-2005, 11:23 PM

17AA liver toxicity is very much over rated especially by people who just parrot what they hear or read.

The 17AA modification to a drug makes the drug harder to metabolize thus adding extra strain on the liver.

**newbrew** · 02-24-2005, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

17AA liver toxicity is very much over rated especially by people who just parrot what they hear or read.

The 17AA modification to a drug makes the drug harder to metabolize thus adding extra strain on the liver.

The liver still metabolizes an injectable though, correct?

**Deezuhl** · 02-24-2005, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

17AA liver toxicity is very much over rated especially by people who just parrot what they hear or read.

The 17AA modification to a drug makes the drug harder to metabolize thus adding extra strain on the liver.

I wouldnt be so sure. winstrol just sent mine to 10 times the normal amount.

**Hazard** · 02-24-2005, 11:31 PM

i believe the 17aa/liver damaging info that many people parrot is exagerated.... i know someone who's been on winstrol for 15 weeks - between 50-100mg's eod..... I know someone whow as on Abombs for 10 weeks....

im not saying it's a smart thing to do.... and im not condoning long term usage of an oral.... i just think the effects on the liver are over exagerated..... the blood test results of the guys i know came back high ofcoarse... but nothing too high....... nothing like you'd expect from running winny for 15 weeks......

again... that was them and not you....

**KGBnine** · 02-24-2005, 11:32 PM

Yeah I agree with Big and Hazard.

***BajanBastard*** · 02-24-2005, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by newbrew

The liver still metabolizes an injectable though, correct?

Yes it does. However they are more easily metabolized.

Originally Posted by Fat Mike

I wouldnt be so sure. winstrol just sent mine to 10 times the normal amount.

Maybe you had an underlying condition?

**Stumbo** · 02-25-2005, 12:55 AM

he also had blood work done the same day that he injected 100mgs winny

***xxx*** · 02-25-2005, 05:03 AM

there will alwys be ppl who will have good liver values and live a healthy and long life even after 6 month of some sort of 17aa drugs. it s like with smoking: my grandfather was a heavy smoker until he died with 85 - so smoking isn t dangerous?

pls don t play down the risks...

**ace ventura** · 02-25-2005, 05:15 AM

If it wasn't for the 17AA the drug would hardly be absorbed in the body.

**AVAGO** · 02-25-2005, 05:43 AM

i took d-bol for about 6 weeks on its own (very stupid but it was a while ago, was using a "friends" advice.) i got an unbeliveable pain in my liver area it dropped me straight to my knees i cudnt even shout my missus i discontiued but i still could not take down any i mean ANY water for nearly 4 days, i would have been hospitalized if it wasnt for me not tellin doc how long i was not able to take water of food down (purely because i was so weak and fcuked up, i couldnt remember.)
I look after my body and hardly ever drink anymore moral is reaserch and not every ones livers can handle the same .