Too old?

**kingpin054** · 03-08-2005, 07:16 PM

I am 38 yrs old. I have done three cycles in the past wich consisted of (sus 250 deca ,d-bol, enathate, cyp. ect.) Now i'm going to start a tren , winnt cycle for 8 wks. I have never tryed either and i'm a little nervous about the two. are they safe? what sides can I expect? do they make you feel any different? will be on 150 per wk. per winny and 150 wk.per tren.
I know this sounds like a flame but I really need your guys input.
Thanx.

**alluprbdy** · 03-08-2005, 07:19 PM

you need test in their. Tren has a considerable amount of sides but I know people that still love it.

**Pale Horse** · 03-08-2005, 07:19 PM

I'm 39 and still kickin! At those levels you should be fine, not very high doses at all. Tren will make your bp climb a bit, winny makes my joints ache like a mofo.

**alluprbdy** · 03-08-2005, 07:21 PM

I forgot what your doses were I'd run test e at 500mg's for 10 weeks throw the tren in week 4-10 @ 75mg EOD and winny weeks 6-10 at 100mg's EOD.

**joevette** · 03-08-2005, 07:23 PM

Well, my dad has run tren and he's 55!

**kingpin054** · 03-08-2005, 07:25 PM

I'm sorry I forgot to tell you guys this is a cutting cycle only.
My next cycle will consist of test , deca , winny, GH, and tren

**alluprbdy** · 03-08-2005, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by kingpin054

I'm sorry I forgot to tell you guys this is a cutting cycle only.
My next cycle will consist of test , deca , winny, GH, and tren

that ones gonna be badass. But comcerning the current one a freind of mine that is also 38 just finished up a his cycle consisting of everything I recomended just the test was at 800mg's EW he threw clen in durring pct to help drop more weight and his results were awesome. Just cause you have test dont mean you cant cut down just eat clean and do proper cardio.

**kingpin054** · 03-08-2005, 07:35 PM

thanx.

**kingpin054** · 03-09-2005, 07:34 AM

Bump, anyone else on side effects?

**Diesel** · 03-09-2005, 07:40 AM

I think you'll be fine with the doseages you have. (side effects wise)

I would however, consider adding prop in that mix as well.

Tren /Winny/Prop is a great cutter...IMO

**alluprbdy** · 03-09-2005, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by kingpin054

Bump, anyone else on side effects?

did you read this profile? http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=141930

**kingpin054** · 03-09-2005, 08:39 PM

thanx for the info

**Trackman 37** · 03-09-2005, 08:46 PM

King,

I'm 38 also and was going to run an EQ and winny cycle but after asking around on this board got talked out of the winny- been told it is extremly tough on the hair line and the joints. I don't have any worries about the hair line but have had knee and elbow problems off and on for several years and don't want to chance. Good luck with whatever you end up going with bro.

**MrMondodondo** · 03-09-2005, 10:14 PM

Test - Eq - Tren ...........That's the ticket.........I'm lovin it.....

**bowie** · 03-09-2005, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by MrMondodondo

Test - Eq - Tren...........That's the ticket.........I'm lovin it.....

test, tren , eq, is the one and only cycle I ever do.(and trust me, i've tried everything with all types of combinations) What more could you want? Hard lean muscle mass.

**kingpin054** · 03-13-2005, 10:30 PM

what od you think about prop to the mix? how much and ed, ro eod?

**DrugsrGood** · 03-13-2005, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by alluprbdy

I forgot what your doses were I'd run test e at 500mg's for 10 weeks throw the tren in week 4-10 @ 75mg EOD and winny weeks 6-10 at 100mg's EOD.

Ya, you should go with prop if possible. I think this guys suggestion(above) is set up much better than the way you are running it. also, winny and tren have very short half lives...when you say you take 150/wk. i hope you have divided this into ed/eod injections for more stable lvls.

**Hazard** · 03-13-2005, 10:45 PM

here is what i would to.....

1-10 Test prop - 75mg's ED
1-9 Tren A - 50mg's ED
2-10 Winny - 50mg's ED

eventho the halflifes are similar... i like to run my test longer than the tren.....

My father is 43 and he's still goin.... just can't run tren due to high BP

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:19 PM

real quick before i inject is 1" pin ok?

**Hazard** · 03-14-2005, 12:20 PM

inject into what? It should be ok in every site.... the only place i'd consider a 1 1/2" is the glutes....

As long as your BF isn't high.... u should be alright in any muscle....

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:26 PM

so i can inject trenbolona with a 1" pin in my outside thigh ?

**Hazard** · 03-14-2005, 12:28 PM

yup - shouldn't have any problems in the leg with a 1" pin..... Thats what i use... and i've never had problems.

what % bf u at?

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:30 PM

about 25% this is a cutting cycle, Im doing cardio 40min 5 days, weights 5 days

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:34 PM

and on a strict diet,
Breakfast: max muscle meal replacement
snack

rotein shake
lunch:chicken breast, veggies.
snack: protein shake
dinner: chicken breast,veggies
and thats my diet.

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:39 PM

bump

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:46 PM

bump

**Hazard** · 03-14-2005, 12:51 PM

if you want to grow at all your going to need to eat way more..... most of your protein should come fromr eal food.... and you neeeeed carbs to build.....

when you want to cut up you would cut the carbs back little by little...

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:55 PM

I need to loose weight fast, then I will cycle large, but I need to loose 12lbs in three weeks.

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 12:56 PM

I weigh 260lbs at about 25 to 28% BF. height 6'4"

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 01:00 PM

bump

**kingpin054** · 03-14-2005, 01:10 PM

bump

**Hazard** · 03-14-2005, 01:14 PM

the only thing i know of the will rid fat fast is DNP .... but DNP is nothing to be messin with if your new to this scene.... some wills ay it's nothin to be messin with PERIOD.....

Maybe try some clen and T3?