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    Angry How Much Prop Should I Add To Start Results Now?

    400mg EQ - weeks 1 - 12
    500mg Test-E weeks 1 - 13

    Today is day day 17, I don't want to wait until week 5 to start getting gains.

    HOW MUCH PROP SHOULD I ADD TO GET THINGS GOING FASTER?

    Should I just up the dose of enanthate and EQ today to simulate having jump stated this?

    Thanks

    My objective is to get my plasma levels to have roughly the PEAK test amount stabilized immediately and sustained...

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    Anyone? Bueler?

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    ... anyone?

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    after 17 days it's kind of late, you should have run the prop. from the begining. The test E will soon start to take effect. If you are going to do it then run about 50mg ED for a few weeks.

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    patience it'll be kicking in soon enough. I remember your previous posts where you paranoid and didnt want to do test at all, now youre wanting to add more

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhorn814
    patience it'll be kicking in soon enough. I remember your previous posts where you paranoid and didnt want to do test at all, now youre wanting to add more
    i said the same thing in his other thread about this today hes just not listening

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    if you did proper research you wouldve easily found out that test e and eq take a while to kick in and then you couldve planned accordingly to take something to kick start it. Just be patient, the gains will come

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    Totally agree longhorn, the only thing they kept me from fully realizing the necessity of it is that I didn't realize that I would be getting no results as my testicles are shut down for a NEEDLESSLY long period of time. I thought the results would be ramping up... they aren't.

    What about upping the enanthate and EQ a bit for this injection?

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    upping the test e or eq wont do anything. All it would do is send your hormones on a roller coaster ride. It still releases at the same rate into your bloodstream regardless of you inject 100mg or 1000mg!! I find it hard to believe that you are so shut down in two weeks of test e and eq

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    Well, my balls are smaller and they feel a bit achy most of the time.

    Also, what about adding some Prop? isn't that a faster release to the system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    Well, my balls are smaller and they feel a bit achy most of the time.

    Also, what about adding some Prop? isn't that a faster release to the system?
    prop takes 2 weeks for it to reach stable levels for me. like evryone else said already 50 times just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    Well, my balls are smaller and they feel a bit achy most of the time.

    Also, what about adding some Prop? isn't that a faster release to the system?
    i don't know if that's a typo but if your balls are itchy it's either crabs or the herp

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    achy, not itchy, funny tho.

    Okay, if prop takes a while to stabilize also, then there's no sense doing it. My logic IS valid, my information was incomplete. Now, subject TWO! :-) How about the process of going from the slow ester enanthate to the fast ester Proprionate to finish the cycle and minimize the time between my last injection and my PCT?

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    achy, not itchy, funny tho.

    Okay, if prop takes a while to stabilize also, then there's no sense doing it. My logic IS valid, my information was incomplete. Now, subject TWO! :-) How about the process of going from the slow ester enanthate to the fast ester Proprionate to finish the cycle and minimize the time between my last injection and my PCT?

    Thanks again.
    that makes sense that will aid in recovery

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    i did that my first cycle 75 mg prop ed . started to get itchy nips so just make sure you run l-dex and you should be fine.

    if you have enough prop for 2 weeks @75mg ed then you could run the eq 2 weeks longer and take last shot of enanth 2 weeks b4 starting the prop

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    like this
    1-14 eq
    1-13 test enanth
    14+15 test prop
    start pct 3 days after last shot of prop

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    just wait, for future run 75mg - 100mg ed weeks 1-4 of your next cycle.

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    Okay, cool! F.W., what are you thoughts on perhaps shortening the cycle 12 weeks, but otherwise following your protocol, just moving up the dates in which those changes are made. Also, you read my mind by posting the example... it made it easy to get what you were saying.

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    Bro if I were you I would go ahead with the prop- 400wkly perhaps ED injects. That test e can take up to 4-5 weeks to kick in and the EQ at least that long or longer.

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    Add 400mg weekly??? Really? I thought I only needed a slight augmentation to the current daily release values. And you know, come to think of it, I understand what the "drug half life is" ... but I'm sure that differs from the % per day that is released from the depot... no?

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