Please help with your advice . . .

**sgoldberg** · 05-08-2005, 03:15 PM

Hello,

I am 5'10'' and weigh 185 pounds. I am looking to gain muscle mass and become ripped through my arms and abs. I have done a lot of thinking and decided to start a cycle, but know very little about steroids . Please suggest a specific steroid (or steroid + supplement combo) to use along with a cycle that may be good for me. All suggestions are appreciated, but I personally would prefer the fastest and easiest results, with the least amount of side-effects. Your suggestions and time are appreciated.

Thank you.

**bigger** · 05-08-2005, 03:16 PM

test E 500mg/week would do

BG · 05-08-2005, 03:18 PM

Give your age stats how long training

**toc67guru** · 05-08-2005, 03:19 PM

how long have you been training?

what age are you?

have you your diet in order?

**sgoldberg** · 05-08-2005, 03:19 PM

Thank you for your suggestion Bigger, but what is the full name for "test E" and for how many weeks should I use it.

Thanks.

**bigger** · 05-08-2005, 03:20 PM

10 weeks and enanthane

**toc67guru** · 05-08-2005, 03:20 PM

have you any training experience?

**sgoldberg** · 05-08-2005, 03:21 PM

I'm 18, play football in the fall, but lift year round. I will lift as much as is necessary for best results with these products, but right now i have been lifting about 2-3 times a week. My diet is fair, i eat a solid amount of protein, but also a little "junk food". But I am also willing to edit my diet depending on whatever is necessary.

Thanks for your help.

**sgoldberg** · 05-08-2005, 03:22 PM

By the way, this is my first cycle and i have never used any other supplement or steroid besides Creatine.

**bigger** · 05-08-2005, 03:24 PM

oki, just train naturaly for 2 years and then come back and ask, to youn to start, you can ezaly gain those kg whithut steroids , styddy and do reserch along the time

**toc67guru** · 05-08-2005, 03:24 PM

do not take this personally as i do not mean to offendbut i feel you are too young.

you have a lot of natural growing ahead of you to build a good foundation.

**sgoldberg** · 05-08-2005, 03:26 PM

Alright, no offense is taken and I appreciate your suggestions and will take them into consideration. However, if anybody has any difference of opinion or soemthing else to bring tot he table, please feel free to post.

**musclestack** · 05-08-2005, 03:27 PM

I think you need to do a little more research before you start shoving pins in your a$$. There's more to AAS than "just let me pop some of these and shoot some of that and I'll get big". This website has a lot of information-make it useful to yourself.

**toc67guru** · 05-08-2005, 03:31 PM

your natural testosterone levels at your age should be through the roof!

take full advantage of this and build a solid foundation that can be added to down the line through "other means".
i know it seems like we are trying to hold you back but truely this is not the case.

we all want to be HUGE yesterday!

**longhorn814** · 05-08-2005, 03:33 PM

youre too young for steroids right now. Youve got tons of natural testosterone in your body right now and with solid training and a good bulking diet, you'll easily put on some more size. You need to gain as much naturally before taking gear and you can still gain quite a bit, I'd wait until youre at least 21. Steroids arent miracle drugs, they only work well with sound training and diet. Spend time on here researching and see why you should wait and why its not good for an 18 year old to shut down your natural test production at an early age

**longhorn814** · 05-08-2005, 03:34 PM

trying eat like it is suggested in this thread, you'll be amazed at the results.

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

RA · 05-08-2005, 04:51 PM

I know a guy who did juice in high school. Now he is short bald and hairy everywhere else. I dont know how tall you are but if you plan on starting now you should also plan on not getting any taller.