Another D-bol question

[Adonis]

ok, ok, ok, it's two questions so sue me.

first, ... are Naposims any good?

second, are there any side effects at 20-25mg ED for 8-10 weeks?

[Iron horse]

most poeople dont take them that long since they can be toxic, if your body seems alrite, and u get checked out time to time, then you'll most likely be fine.

but i'd up the dose a bit. 30mgs/daily

[Ryanhallmark]

What do you guys think of 25mg 2 times a day.. to get you to 50mg???

[Iron horse]

take it four time a day instead i think

[Adonis]

thanks but ....
I want to do a low dose because this is my first time doing gear and i want to see how my body reacts to it.

Because I will be doing a low dose, I want to see what gains I get at 8-10 weeks.

Which brings me to another question:
At low dosages, is it still that toxic when taken for 8-10 weeks?

[D3m3nt3d]

most people will tell u no no to a d-bol only cycle if thats what ur gettin at..alot of people lose everything they gain after coming off that..i however gained 17lbs off a d-bol only cycle at 40mg/e.d. for 6 weeks..and was able to keep it..but yes 17aa pills are toxic regardless of how long ur on them

[Adonis]

Yeah, I know about that and have considered doing the following:
wk 1-4 [email protected] ED
wk 1-8 [email protected] EW
wk 8-12 Winstrol @50mg ED
along with clomid @ the end and Nolvadex just in case.

BUT, I want to "test" the watter first because I have had severe acne before and it tends to flare up with just about anything.
I also react preaty well on almost anything, I gained 90lbs on just Tribulus, 1-AD, creatine and protein sheakes... all in about a year.
Granted I'm at 18% bf but it's still a huge jump from a year back.

[Ryanhallmark]

Originally posted by Adonis
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I gained 90lbs on just Tribulus, 1-AD, creatine and protein sheakes... all in about a year.
Granted I'm at 18% bf but it's still a huge jump from a year back. [/B]

90 lbs or 9..90 is like unreall amounts IMO....That sounds like alot of fat..??

[Iron horse]

dont "test" the waters man, either you ready or you aint.

you'll be disapointed with low doses. 30-40mgs daily I say.

JMO!!

[utah pump]

This is some information I found on a thread a while back. It goes over the oral only cycles. As for the dose I would either jump into the full 50mg or wait to start until you are ready. I have taken Naposim before and liked it, the only side was a headache for about three days? Good luck.

If using orals only: You have to use them for 8-12 weeks in order to solidify gains. If you use them for <6 weeks you won't get as many gains as 8-12 weeks and you'll lose more muscle than if you ran 8-12 weeks.

Why? Orals stimulate GH and IGF-1 production in the liver. However, the stimulation INCREASES as time goes by. So, by the end of the 8-12th week your GH and IGF-1
levels are MUCH higher than at 6 weeks, therefore it is FAR easier to keep your gains.

Here are 3 easy beginner cycles:

The best: Winstrol at 40-50mg/day for 12 weeks.
The second best: Anavar at 40-60mg/day for 12 weeks
The third best: Dianabol at 50mg/day for 12 weeks.

This of course is in terms of price/affectivity and safety. Anavar is probably out as its too expensive for you. So, that leaves Winstrol or Dianabol. So, the choice now becomes whether you want to look nice and tight while still gaining muscle or strong and bloated. Another bonus is that anti-e's DO NOT need to be run with the Winstrol, only the Dianabol.

Important:
Liver-protestants.

1. ALA at 600mg/day
2. 4-5.0L of water/day

No other liver supplements are necessary. You do not have to buy 3-4 other because they don't do anything ALA doesn't do.

So, to re-run everything:

Choice 1: Winstrol at 40-50mg/day+600mg ALA/day+ Clomid/Arimidex at the end.

Choice 2: Dianabol at 50mg/day+600mg ALA/day + Clomid + Arimidex throughout the cycle and post-cycle.

Post-cycle= 4 weeks of 100mg Clomid/day+ 0.25-0.5mg Arimidex/day

Choice 1 is cheaper AND better than 2 IMO. But, it’s your choice.

Remember too, that the Dianabol bloat will DEFINITELY give others the impression you're on something.

[Adonis]

WOW!!
thanks for that bro, that's a great post.

again, thank you.

[D3m3nt3d]

i gained great off 6 weeks and i wouldnt run a 17aa pill for 8-12 weeks bro..and besides my best gains were in the 2-4 week range

[Adonis]

Originally posted by Ryanhallmark

90 lbs or 9..90 is like unreall amounts IMO....That sounds like alot of fat..??

That's like saying "that's a lot of BS!"

I did say my body fat is quite high in the first place, I never said it was 90lbs of pure muscle.

BTW.....
When I see posts I personally don't believe I keep it to myself and if it is true, than more power to that person.
It's a big world and anything is possible.

Sorry if I sounded a bit pissed but you don't have the slightest idea on how hard I work.

[Neo]

Hard work will get ya there bro. Good job on everything! Keep ripping it up!

[Adonis]

Originally posted by Neo
Hard work will get ya there bro. Good job on everything! Keep ripping it up!

Thank you.

[DrStacks]

D-bol is too toxic over 7 weeks, don't risk it. keep it under 6 weeks and take Proviron OR if not nolva. T250 at 500 is good and if you take some winny during the Test you will tend to keep more weight if thats what your looking for. Winny at 50mg a day is good. or 100 EOD

[Iron horse]

winny is toxic too remember, and where did you get that dbol is toxic over 7 weeks?

[Jack87]

Naps are good Russians are better...
25mg to 30mg is to low unless it's your first time on D-bol...IMO
10 weeks may be a little to long on D-bol... I've been on D-bol for up to 8 weeks with no problems...

[still growin]

I would recommend starting with a less toxic steroid first. D-bol and anadrol have the best chances of sides, but also the possibility of really good gains. see how your body handles a less poptent and toxic aas first. if no bad sides, why not give her a whirl?! Better safe than sorry!
By the way, I love the russian d-bol, but got bad sides (acne, lots of water retention) with Naposim!