Improving joints? anything can be done?

[Luke]

I try to warm up before my routine. I also try not to jerk the weight and stick to proper form. Yet after a few weeks of training it's always the right elbow and left shoulder that always go and it's painful to do any bench presses, tric. exercises (esp. french presses). Is there anything that one can do to improve the strength of the joints? Any supplements? Drugs?
I understand that Deca is good for lubing them, anything else?

Thank you.

[murph]

you con try Glucosamine/chondroitin....or MSM ...all are legal and can be found at the GNC or Walmart even

[flex321]

they have a product that is a mix of all three of those mixed. Try it but i hear it takes 3 weeks before it starts to work, so just cause it doesnt help right away just give it some time. good luck, and happy joints

[ironmaster]

Deca and hGH.
murph is right, but those natural remedies take so long to see results....and expensive as hell. Even a mere 200mg deca a week will help a bunch almost immediately....and it's cheaper than G & C.

[EXCESS]

Glucosamine

[Kid Shred]

I use 1.25 rolling papers that have not let me down yet. Always make sure to always grind the bud in a cofee bean grinder if you have or scissors will work just fine.Once it's powdery, roll it tight and you're good to go just watch out for the canoe.

[Unity66]

listen to ironmaster......if you have the $$......go with 6iu/day HGH for 5on/2off...

im only 22days out of surgury (platella tendon, torn ACL/medial meniscus) and im recovering so fast. i dont know if it has to do with the condition my wheels where in or the 600mg/wk of nandro im using.......just starting to kick in now at 3wks+

stick with a low dose nandrolone /test stack and let your strength gains come slowly. remember........ligaments/tendons dont grow nearly as fast as the strain we put on muscles demanding higher weight.........

this is why people tear there pecs/etc on anadrol or fina!!!!

Unity66

[Iron horse]

Originally posted by Kid Shred
I use 1.25 rolling papers that have not let me down yet. Always make sure to always grind the bud in a cofee bean grinder if you have or scissors will work just fine.Once it's powdery, roll it tight and you're good to go just watch out for the canoe.

about the canoe, just brush the joint against your lips a few times. not to make it wet, but to add small amounts of moisture.
You will find it burns better this way.

btw - get watermellon flavoured papers for extra fun

[Dr.Evil]

rest and time off. lower the weights.

deca will only lube the joint and prevent friction. it doesn't actually heal the joints.

hgh will work wonders, but it's gonna cost you a couple of $k.

[Mr. Fina]

For your shoulder it can be an inflammed rotator cuff. Try doing external and internal rotations before any exercise. For your elbow place a tennis ball or a softer ball and squeeze it. Take your left hand and place it on the ventral side f your right wrist and push down while pushing up with your right hand. Try physical therapy before you try drugs. Use motrin for the inflammation in shoulder and elbow.

[relentless]

first of quit using barbells and machines 2nd start taking omega 3 and omega 6 fats i get mine from flax seed oil about 8 tbsp a day it will work wongers. 3rd gluco and chondroitin at 1500 mgs a day each. the flax really did it for me though. and i always use dumbells.

[Ajax]

One thing that really has helped me reduce joint pain is making sure I keep the muscles on either side of the joint in balance.

When my shoulder started to cause me pain, I worked the rear delts harder--the pain subsided as the rear delt matched the strength of the front/medial delts.

[eradikate]

Originally posted by Iron horse


about the canoe, just brush the joint against your lips a few times. not to make it wet, but to add small amounts of moisture.
You will find it burns better this way.

btw - get watermellon flavoured papers for extra fun

pot heads

[righton]

Originally posted by Iron horse


about the canoe, just brush the joint against your lips a few times. not to make it wet, but to add small amounts of moisture.
You will find it burns better this way.

btw - get watermellon flavoured papers for extra fun

WATERMELLON FLAVOUR!!!! Where??????????

[Dancer]

another vote 4 hGH

[eradikate]

Originally posted by flex321
they have a product that is a mix of all three of those mixed. Try it but i hear it takes 3 weeks before it starts to work, so just cause it doesnt help right away just give it some time. good luck, and happy joints

what is this product called?

[super 88]

my knees are shit,I use to walk with a cane. The glucosamine,chondrotin,msm vitamin E and C, really helped. It did take about 6 months though.It sounds like some rehabilition exercises are needed for your shoulder.Rotator cuffs are very easy to injure so warm up slowly,choose exercises that work all three heads of the delts equally, and do a search for physical therapy for rotator cuffs.

[Iron horse]

Originally posted by righton


WATERMELLON FLAVOUR!!!! Where??????????

local hemp shop carries them, they longer than the normal one's also. my friends are right into them.

[Big Rush]

Originally posted by Iron horse


about the canoe, just brush the joint against your lips a few times. not to make it wet, but to add small amounts of moisture.
You will find it burns better this way.

btw - get watermellon flavoured papers for extra fun

I like to slobber down the entire joint then let it dry. Run's are minimized and the burn is slow, steady and even.

Peace

[Whiteyebrowe]

i would let these injurys heal
and focus more on what you can train
while your gear or glucosamine is kicking in

[Nate_Dog]

Originally posted by Mr. Fina
For your shoulder it can be an inflammed rotator cuff. Try doing external and internal rotations before any exercise. For your elbow place a tennis ball or a softer ball and squeeze it. Take your left hand and place it on the ventral side f your right wrist and push down while pushing up with your right hand. Try physical therapy before you try drugs. Use motrin for the inflammation in shoulder and elbow.

I am suprised how many people don't do rotator cuff exercises.

[Luke]

Originally posted by Nate_Dog


I am suprised how many people don't do rotator cuff exercises.

I would, but I don't know what they are :-)))

[devilscabanaboy19]

Rotator cuff excercises sure saved my ass.

[Iron horse]

post good exercises for them then!!

[McBain]

One of the best ways to warmup your rotator cuff (I do this before all upper body workouts) is bend over at the waist so your torso is about parallel with the ground, you can bend your legs a bit or rest one arm on a bench even. Let one arms hang down completely relaxed and swing in a pendulum-like fashion, doing large cirlces then small circles then the reverse way. Do this for both arms. Best way to warmup rotator cuff imo. Also you are already probably doing some rotator cuff exercises, shrugs are great for rotator cuff (if done properly).

[Compaq]

Hey, The cheapest Good way to help your joints is DECA . If you are not looking for sauce. WHY THE HELL DONT YOU WARM UP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ANYWAY? THATS A BEGINNERS MISTAKES! sorry i get carried away. .Can i say hell?? HAHAH.

You learn from your mistakes.. You should feel lucky this isent a bad as it can come.


COMPAQ IS BACK!!!

[TNT]

Originally posted by Luke
Is there anything that one can do to improve the strength of the joints?

Roll them tighter.
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(Sorry . . . Couldn't resist.)

[jbrand]

too many drug responses imo. strengthen the surrounding muscle, especially stabilizer muscles.