4th cycle critique

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 10:29 AM

I'm 25 and this will be my 4th cycle, although only 2 legit cycles under my belt. I've had hernia surgery and my last cycle has been well over a year ago.

I want to have a nice lean mass cycle with the least # of shots since i'm a shot P&ssy.

175 lbs
+/-12% bf
5' 10"

1-12 500mg test enan.
1-11 300mg deca
5-12 75mg tren /ed
7-12 40mg var/ed

200mg vit b-6 ed
.50 l-dex throughout
proper pct with hcg /clomid

Should i bump up test/deca doses?

**stocky121** · 07-13-2005, 10:34 AM

i would run the ren 1-10 but that's just me

the cycle look's fine

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 10:38 AM

good. i've also been dieting pretty hard to lean out b/f i run this, i'm just worried that the test/deca dose is too low for me????

**stocky121** · 07-13-2005, 10:42 AM

shit bro i just noticed bro i would not run tren and deca in the same cycle because you prolactin level's will be high

but if you are going to run this i would up the test to at least 750mg

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 10:45 AM

True. how about swapping deca for EQ and running it at 400-600mg??

**stocky121** · 07-13-2005, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Johnnystick77

True. how about swapping deca for EQ and running it at 400-600mg??

i thnk that would be a great idea

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 10:51 AM

ok one more tweak:

switch to test cyp at 600mg/wk
and EQ at 400mg/wk

600mg should be enough after 12 months off right?

**stocky121** · 07-13-2005, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Johnnystick77

ok one more tweak:

switch to test cyp at 600mg/wk
and EQ at 400mg/wk

600mg should be enough after 12 months off right?

what and scrap the tren and var ??

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:01 AM

no keep them,

1-12 600 test cyp
1-11 400 mg EQ
5-12 75mg tren ed
7-12 40mg var ed

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:08 AM

i like the idea of front loading the tren but i never thought i could run it 10 weeks...is that too long?

why run the var a week longer...b/c the esters are still working?

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:14 AM

thats cool...it just sucks that var and tren are both expensive compounds.

I love the first proposed cycle, it sounds good.

Have you or anyone ever ran tren at the beginning and end?

Last time i tried to run prop i couldn't hardly walk but i only gave it one stick so maybe i'll man up to it.

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:18 AM

is the susp. a two a day?

when i think of running tren in the beginning i think of it as really kick starting my strength while slow oils are catching up but i think running it in the end would do more for vascularity/any fat burning. does that sound right?

**toolman** · 07-13-2005, 11:21 AM

Is it your first time on tren ? If so, 8 weeks is enough. Good to see the dosages you are talking about. I am tired of seeing all these guys who think their 4th cycle has to be 750 to a gram of test.

**Swifto** · 07-13-2005, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Johnnystick77

is the susp. a two a day?

when i think of running tren in the beginning i think of it as really kick starting my strength while slow oils are catching up but i think running it in the end would do more for vascularity/any fat burning. does that sound right?

Test Susp needs to be injected 2 or 3 times a day.

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by toolman

Is it your first time on tren? If so, 8 weeks is enough. Good to see the dosages you are talking about. I am tired of seeing all these guys who think their 4th cycle has to be 750 to a gram of test.

this is my second time running tren . i think its my favorite JUICE. although my attitude def. changed a bit.

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:29 AM

F$CK 2-3x a day. you guys need a purple heart award for that. ouch

**Johnnystick77** · 07-13-2005, 11:46 AM

Lets hear it for tren ...

I'm hoping someone will do another poll that i've seen on here a hundred times..."What is your favorite AAS?"

Vote me in for tren!!