UGL risks

**guest589745** · 07-29-2005, 12:40 AM

Can you guys fill me in on the risks involved in using UGL's as opposed to pharmeceutical brands? What is the difference exactly? I have heard bad things about UGLs but, thats all I have access to.

**dive_kid** · 07-29-2005, 12:50 AM

well pharm grade is very controlled in the makeing.
ugl is (for lack of better words) home brew.
there are many ugl's that are very well knowen and respected.
they put out quality gear that will work well. some......not so good.
make sure you have a trusted sourse and do your research on the lab you want to use.

**dirtyvegas** · 07-29-2005, 12:55 AM

hey dive kid can i pm you later with my sources and could you clairify if there good quality? i have to bounce 4 now...see ya
~DV~

**dive_kid** · 07-29-2005, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by dirtyvegas

hey dive kid can i pm you later with my sources and could you clairify if there good quality? i have to bounce 4 now...see ya
~DV~

ya. I dont ,mind. I know a bit but you will probaly get better info from a mod.

**heckler45_2000** · 07-29-2005, 01:06 AM

There are some really good UGL's and some not so good UGL's. I know of a few that have had pretty much no complaints over a few years and then there are some that have drama all the time. I do know some are run by real chemist and not joe blow in his kitchen.

**Schwarz** · 07-29-2005, 06:57 AM

Anyone suggest UGLs that are really good or really bad?

**Deezuhl** · 07-29-2005, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Schwarz

Anyone suggest UGLs that are really good or really bad?

we cant openly post lab names sorry...

**BlInDsIdE** · 07-29-2005, 08:13 AM

theres plenty of respectable UGL's that are trustworthy and sell high quality gear

**mkv213** · 07-29-2005, 08:32 AM

My source (UGL) is very well known. The gear is da shit! The quality, T/A, and communication can't be beat. I would never buy elsewhere. I'd much rather buy from them then go to Mexico and get underdosed or fake shit, not to mention the risk of getting busted bringing it back. International sources are in the same boat. It takes forever and you run the risk of getting the package seized by customs.

....and no PMs asking for UGL sources

**jucinator** · 07-29-2005, 08:33 AM

bump

**The Baron** · 07-29-2005, 10:24 AM

I always filter all UG gear and usually all vet gear. .22 all the way, baby!

**Heracles74** · 07-29-2005, 10:26 AM

One of the biggest differences is that some of the UGL stuff can be made in a bathtub and pharm grade stuff is sterile and able ot be trusted...

***G-1000*** · 07-29-2005, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Baron

I always filter all UG gear and usually all vet gear. .22 all the way, baby!

i do the same thing. no mater what ug it is. i get new vials and .20 whatmen filters and make sure it's clean.

**hatchblack** · 07-29-2005, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

i do the same thing. no mater what ug it is. i get new vials and .20 whatmen filters and make sure it's clean.

Where are you getting your filters....? and new sterile glass for that matter.

What do you do...just stick a pin in and draw out all the oil and push it through the filter into the new glass?

***G-1000*** · 07-29-2005, 01:59 PM

g.e.t.p.i.n.z. remove alll the ....

**Jack87** · 07-29-2005, 02:01 PM

LMAO!!
OK I know that's a popular line people use, but I can't see any UG making
shit in their bathtub, common on... Funny, but not true... I can see some
being much more professional about it then others and making sure things
are done right and are sterile as possible, but the Bath Tub line... LMAO!

Originally Posted by Heracles74

One of the biggest differences is that some of the UGL stuff can be made in a bathtub and pharm grade stuff is sterile and able ot be trusted...

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 07-29-2005, 02:14 PM

Cons: Chance of it being underdosed, painful since concentration tends to be much higher then Pharm., unsanitary and a complete mystery liquid essentially.

Pros: Cheaper then Pharm, readily available, unique mixes.

**jc#9** · 07-29-2005, 02:39 PM

Can someone explain the filtering process a little better? And why filter when you have what do you find?

**Heracles74** · 07-29-2005, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

LMAO!!
OK I know that's a popular line people use, but I can't see any UG making
shit in their bathtub, common on... Funny, but not true... I can see some
being much more professional about it then others and making sure things
are done right and are sterile as possible, but the Bath Tub line... LMAO!

Figure of speech bro, I said it to get a point across -- not sterile... or as sterile as something pharm grade. Personally - I would not use ugl garbage I wasn't sure of when I have access to pharm brands of whatever I need.
I will spell it out next time so it is not laughably taken out of context for you.

**Jack87** · 07-29-2005, 09:22 PM

I knew exactly what you meant, what I find funny is how some guys assume
all UGL's are goin to give them infections from not being sterile, when
I've personally ran 4-5 different UGL's in the last few years and all of
them have been fine...

The only human grade stuff I run sometimes now is either some Test Ent
usually the Iranian's or ICN's sometimes, but other then that it's all UGL's
and I'm very pleased with the quality of the stuff I use...

Sounds like you must have had some bad experiences with what you tried...

Originally Posted by Heracles74

Figure of speech bro, I said it to get a point across -- not sterile... or as sterile as something pharm grade. Personally - I would not use ugl garbage I wasn't sure of when I have access to pharm brands of whatever I need.
I will spell it out next time so it is not laughably taken out of context for you.

**Heracles74** · 07-30-2005, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

I knew exactly what you meant, what I find funny is how some guys assume
all UGL's are goin to give them infections from not being sterile, when
I've personally ran 4-5 different UGL's in the last few years and all of
them have been fine...

The only human grade stuff I run sometimes now is either some Test Ent
usually the Iranian's or ICN's sometimes, but other then that it's all UGL's
and I'm very pleased with the quality of the stuff I use...

Sounds like you must have had some bad experiences with what you tried...

I see, Didn't mean to come off as abrasive.

Yes, as a matter of fact I have had a couple bad experiences with a couple ugl products. I know a lot are probably great. But yuou know how that goes, ya have a bad expereince and you kinda label them...
Nonetheless, I was just stating my opinion and when I look back at it, I could have done so with better verbage.

**Jack87** · 07-30-2005, 06:10 PM

That cool, I knew where you were coming from... I had a bad experience
long ago with one of the original UGL's from china way back in the day and
to this day I'll never run any of his stuff again...

There are some now that do produce a pretty good quality product, but
there's still some bad ones I wouldn't want to use either... I figured you
must have got your hands on a bad one...

No biggie... I just had to laugh at the Bath Tub brewing part, I've heard that
line so many times and just the thought of some dude brewing up stuff in his
Bath Tub with his girl probably bitching at him to hurry up cus she's got to shave her legs cracks me up everytime...

Originally Posted by Heracles74

I see, Didn't mean to come off as abrasive.

Yes, as a matter of fact I have had a couple bad experiences with a couple ugl products. I know a lot are probably great. But yuou know how that goes, ya have a bad expereince and you kinda label them...
Nonetheless, I was just stating my opinion and when I look back at it, I could have done so with better verbage.

**hemidog66** · 07-30-2005, 06:22 PM

on most open source boards they have a ratings section.. research that section and u will find out who has problems and who has product 90% of the time (ez as that)