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    need some advice on my 1st cycle

    Im trying to get all the info i need to make a wise decision on my 1st cycle. Im 21, I weigh 165 lbs and am at about 6.5% BF. I want to add maybe 10-15 lbs of lean mass while gaining a more shredded look. I am considering a cycle of EQ and Win depot...any advice on dosage and duration?? Also wondering what to get for when my cycle ends??? THanks guys!!

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    you should really run some test with both those compounds mate as both will shut you down.

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    good first cycle is test-e at 500 mg/week, for 10-12 weeks...shoot 250mg every 3.5 days... are you familiar with nolva? you need clomid for your post cycle therapy ...head to the PCT forum and read up on how to run your PCT

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    Test prop and var might be the way to go. Its all in the diet though!

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    what would you suggest?? any advice on dosages? thanks bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    Test prop and var might be the way to go. Its all in the diet though!
    i would not recommend prop for a 1st cycle

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    your 1st cycle all you really need mate is 500mg of test for 12 weeks,nolvadex taken at 10mg daily will reduce the water bloat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    i would not recommend prop for a 1st cycle
    Why not bro? I am currently on my very first "proper" cycle and i have included prop.

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    study

    You should do some more research before you do it. There are plenty of sample cycle's for the first timers you can look up. Try Test e and correct pct first and see how your body reacts and again study more first.

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    160?? Try A Weight Gainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    your 1st cycle all you really need mate is 500mg of test for 12 weeks,nolvadex taken at 10mg daily will reduce the water bloat.
    True bro. But i think he wants more of a cutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    True bro. But i think he wants more of a cutter.
    since he is only 165lbs and 6.5% bodyfat, I would think a bulker would a much better idea

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    Yeah im reallyl looking to stay cutter and get even more cut...but 10-15 lbs of lean mass would be nice....and i am currently upping my calories to put on some more weight b4 i start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw0026
    Yeah im reallyl looking to stay cutter and get even more cut...but 10-15 lbs of lean mass would be nice....and i am currently upping my calories to put on some more weight b4 i start.

    as matrix suggested then you should use prop,which means ed or at the least eod jabs!even with prop you can still look bloaty,to stay cut keep your diet in check,its all about diet not the gear you use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    Why not bro? I am currently on my very first "proper" cycle and i have included prop.
    because most 1st timers dont want to shoot ED...and i have known guys that tried prop for their 1st time, and couldnt handle the pain of prop, especially ED, and quit after 1 week or so

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    Ok thanks, yeah my diet is good now been at 6-7% BF for sometime now thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    Test prop and var might be the way to go. Its all in the diet though!
    this could make a good cycle.

    1-10 test prop 75mg day or 125eod
    1-10 var 50mg day

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    Bump the Gsxxr

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytone
    because most 1st timers dont want to shoot ED...and i have known guys that tried prop for their 1st time, and couldnt handle the pain of prop, especially ED, and quit after 1 week or so
    Thats quite true bro. I am fortunate that my prop doesnt hurt at all. I actually shot my calf last night. Which i didnt think i wud ever do with prop!
    I actually prefer my everyday injections of prop over my other Monday/Thursday injections of Test E/EQ. Strange i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw0026
    Yeah im reallyl looking to stay cutter and get even more cut...but 10-15 lbs of lean mass would be nice....and i am currently upping my calories to put on some more weight b4 i start.
    Your 6% bf and want to get more cut? Sorry but i doubt you are 6% how did u get that %? . How tall are you? Pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100m champ
    160?? Try A Weight Gainer
    My thoughts exactly. How tall are u btw?
    You could really get a ton bigger if you just take weight gainer train hard and eat eat eat. I just think if you run a cycle now you will end up losing a lot of ur gains. Your body wont be able to hold it, gain naturally first.

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    im 5'9" a PT used the ELG machine with the electrodes on hand and foot. im sure its not 100% accurate but its ballpark. Im not saying that I want to get more ripped but I want to gain 10-15 lbs of hard lean mass while keeping my look.

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    Yo man Im not tryin to be an ass but really wait b4 u do a cycle. I am actually the same age as you and same height as you and got myself up above 200 lbs natrually, so can u. If you dont even want to get huge as ur end goal and you only want 15 lbs, you will easilly be able to do that with diet and hard training.

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    That seems to be the advice i get the most is to eat and eat and eat but im scared cuz i dont want to lose my look that i have now but i do know that i could probably double my calorie intake. Do i just do more cardio with the added cals or wat?

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    Might just have deal with putting on a little far...How strict is your diet right now? You might be one of those lucky ones that can eat a lot without putting on fat but still gaining mucle.

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    My daily diet usually consists of this...

    Breakfast: 10 egg whites with sliced up turkey breast and FF cheese, slice of WW toast with PB

    40 g protein shake

    Lunch: Chicken breast/can of Tuna w/ weggie and a carb (rice, potatoe)

    40g Protein shake

    Dinner: Large spinach salad with chicken breat

    40 g Protein shake.

    Help me out!!

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    No wonder your ripped but not getting bigger...your eating very low cals bro...I would post it over in the diet section.

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    I would add acouple light snacks in there personally. It is better to spead it out into 6-8 meals a day with your protein shakes rather then three big meals. Always be eating. every 45min.

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    I would go over to the diet threads.you will definitaly learn about your diet.

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