help with pin size please?

**GOSOX** · 08-10-2005, 05:05 PM

im in week 8 of a testE, deca300 cycle and im using 20gage1.5 pins and i would like to use a smaller one, what is the smallest size i can use for this cycle, i was thinking a 22?? i might try and order some from ARR, has anyone ordered pins from them?

the 20 is great to get the stuff loaded but im not a big fan of that huge ass needle going in me, past few injects have been a little tough, i want a smaller pin and one that it wont take me all day to load

**_Tiger_** · 08-10-2005, 05:07 PM

jesus your shooting w/a 20? burn why? shoot with a 25 or somethin

**GOSOX** · 08-10-2005, 05:09 PM

its all my buddy has, it sucks, lol, should i make a order with arr, ive never ordered from them and if so what size would be good for what im using, i cant get anything but 20's from my source at this moment!

**_Tiger_** · 08-10-2005, 05:11 PM

I can buy them at the pharmacy, but I'm not sure where your at, maybe you cant do that..umm yea get like 25g 1.5's for sure, a lot easier..But length depends on where your stickin it, I like quads rather than glutes and you can do a 1" in those.

**marc101** · 08-10-2005, 05:11 PM

23 ga 1.5 is perfect if in the glute and arr has never let me down. comes in 25 50 or 100

**david beads** · 08-10-2005, 06:23 PM

20 gauge thats insane. i use 22 or 23

**Zapp** · 08-10-2005, 06:53 PM

23g is perfect. 25 is smaller....but it takes too long to inject.

**cannibal** · 08-10-2005, 07:01 PM

ARR is top notch on anything you order from them. You cant go wrong, order arrives generally in 3 days. USPS-Priority, you gotta love it!

**GOSOX** · 08-10-2005, 08:31 PM

thanks as usual guys, i think ill try a order with them and grab some 22's or 23's and there clomid, hating the 20's!!!!

***G-1000*** · 08-10-2005, 08:37 PM

i like 22g or 23g the only thing i like 25g for is my tren . this helps me inject slow.

**Samson7** · 08-10-2005, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Zapp

23g is perfect. 25 is smaller....but it takes too long to inject.

I kinda like the 25 because i have an itchy trigger finger and if i inject too quick i get some soreness. But as far as pain difference between 25 and 23 there is non they are both painless

**goalseeker** · 08-10-2005, 10:06 PM

the time I shot my quad was with a 19..........never.....again........

**goalseeker** · 08-10-2005, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Samson7

I kinda like the 25 because i have an itchy trigger finger and if i inject too quick i get some soreness. But as far as pain difference between 25 and 23 there is non they are both painless

I found this true also....

**eGGz** · 08-10-2005, 10:48 PM

25g 1" for me. It is slow but that is a good thing in my book.

**goalseeker** · 08-10-2005, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by eGGz

25g 1" for me. It is slow but that is a good thing in my book.

for going in, yes...
kinda a pain for drawing out tho....JMO

**flex99** · 08-10-2005, 11:37 PM

i remember one time i injected with a 20 gauge , i couldnt walk straight for a week, couldnt sit down, it was horrible. i only used it cause i had ran out, but i never repeated that again. i recommoned 23 or 25 for injecting, and 20 gauge for drawing.

**eGGz** · 08-10-2005, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

for going in, yes...
kinda a pain for drawing out tho....JMO

he he, yeah I tried to draw with a 25g before, took about 5 minutes

Now I just draw with a 20g, swap to the 25g and go for it.

**The Baron** · 08-11-2005, 01:15 AM

20 or 21ga is fine for drawing. I only buy 25ga 1-1/2" pins for shooting, and I buy my syringes with 21ga attached. AR is fine for buying pins except he doesn't have 25ga 1-1/2" but if you are okay with 23ga, go for it. He deserves our business.

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**znak** · 08-11-2005, 03:33 AM

Look at the bright side, after jamming a 20 in your butt for a couple weeks, a twenty three is going to be a piece of cake. It will make you want to use gear that much longer.

**The Baron** · 08-11-2005, 01:03 PM

LOL! Yeah, after 20ga a 23ga will be sweeeeet! Don't bother buying 25ga yet if your supplier does not have them!

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**mark956101957** · 08-11-2005, 04:22 PM

25gauge 1" FOR ALL!!!! With 3cc Syringe being easier than a 5cc.

**Montgomery** · 08-11-2005, 04:26 PM

yeah bro, 25 guage is fine for most everywhere. Maybe still want a 22 or 23 in the glutes. If you find you're having troubles getting the oily test E out once you prick, try heating the vial in hot water before you draw. Also, you only need as big as 1 or 1.5 for glutes, and you can use as small as 3/4 or 5/8 for delts. Use up your 20 guage for drawing into the syring, then replace with a smaller guage pin. You should actually be doing this anyway since jabbing the vial dulls the needle tip and can increase discomfort.

Just MO

Montgomery

**GOSOX** · 08-11-2005, 04:35 PM

great feedback guys, im going to make a order monday with arr for some 23's, 1.5. i have one 20 left for my next shot so this will be my last 20 shot thank god, lol. i hope the 23's are alot more comfortable so i look a little more forword to my injections.

**goalseeker** · 08-11-2005, 04:41 PM

I called the 19 into my quad the "harpoon".... never again.....although I may try the quad again someday with a 25.. just to see....

**The Baron** · 08-12-2005, 01:01 AM

Hey seeker, a 25 goes in sweet in the quads! You hardly feel a nice sharp fresh 25ga when it pierces the skin. Just go slow once you are through the skin, so if you get close to a nerve you can stop and change your angle a bit instead of plowing right through that sucker and doing the electric frog kick LOL! Push the gear in slow, too. Doesn't seem to matter so much in glutes but if you squirt it into your quads too fast, you will surely feel it the next day. And actually the thin-walled terumo 23 feels almost as nice as a 25. Truthfully I am not sure I could really tell the difference if somebody stuck me with both, with my eyes closed.

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