25guage take forever, will a 23guage make much difference?

**broncojosh** · 04-28-2002, 06:01 PM

I'm using 1" 25 guage needles to inject right now, and I love that they are pain free, but hate the fact that it takes 2 or 3 minutes to inject! How much faster can I inject with say a 23 guage? Will it make that much difference? By the way, I usually do 2 1/2cc injections.

**KeyMastur** · 04-28-2002, 06:04 PM

23 g is what I use for everything. I don't really feel the pain anymore - it's just a prick. And yes, it'll make that 2 1/2 cc injection go in a lot quicker.

G-S · 04-28-2002, 06:04 PM

I use a 23g and do 1 and 1/2 cc injections...in about 20-30 seconds.

**Full Intensity** · 04-28-2002, 06:04 PM

sure it will go in a bit quicker but whats the biggie? if you are doing okay with 25's stick with it, i usually use 23 's and it takes about a minute for me.

**broncojosh** · 04-28-2002, 06:10 PM

it just takes forever...maybe I'll grab a couple 23'ers and see which i like more

***Sicilian30*** · 04-28-2002, 06:22 PM

23 gaugers make a huge difference. It normally takes me about 45 sec to 1 mintue to inject 1 cc into my leg. with a 23 gauger, I have to actually slow my inject down, it just falls out of the needle it seems. Doesn't really hurt that much more either.

**broncojosh** · 04-28-2002, 06:24 PM

what about scar tissue build up? Is there going to be a significantly more amount between the two? I am into the last 8 weeks of my cycle, and I only have to do twice a week injections now, so will scar tissue build up just shooting the quads?

**jony1977** · 04-28-2002, 06:33 PM

I use 23G, I do not feel any pain, some disconfort maybe. And the oil goes right through it....try it, I am sure you will like it.

**TNT** · 04-28-2002, 06:44 PM

Normally, I would say that there is not much difference between the feel of a 23 g. and 25 g. needle - except in the quads, which have more nerves and nerve endings that the delts or glutes.

The difference in time between a 23 g. and 25 g. needle is negligible in the long haul; I'd reommend sticking with* the 25 g. as long as you're doing quad shots, Josh.

If you are injecting once a week in each quad using either, no significant scar tissue should develop.
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* Sticking with . . . Get it?

**broncojosh** · 04-28-2002, 06:48 PM

Thanks guys. I just really hate sitting there for 3 minutes with the pin in my leg. Don't want to sound like a pussy, but I'm not the biggest fan of needles. And everybody keeps saying shit about the quads....haven't hit a nerve yet. Am i just lucky, or what

**rangerdudeleads** · 04-28-2002, 06:59 PM

I use a 23 guage too and works fine for me.

**bigkev** · 04-28-2002, 07:04 PM

i use 23guage 1 inch pins for all of my oil based .

**tryin2getbig** · 04-28-2002, 08:36 PM

god i never knew that you could use a 25 guage needle for oil based steroids , i just used them for water based. Maybe i should switch to that because i am using 22g 1.5 inch

**Ajax** · 04-29-2002, 02:30 AM

Josh,

I keep a "kit" with a shitload of different needles in it,

23g 1.5" for glutes
22g, 23g, 24g & 25g 1" for quads (and delts if I ever get the balls to try it!)
18g 1" for drawing from amps

I try to use the smallest gauge needles that time will allow. Occasionally if I am in a real rush I will draw & shoot w/ a 22 gauge to make it quick!

(Draw and shoot w/ a 22 gauge! I kinda sound like a gunslinger!)

If you can buy at a local pharmacy (or somewhere where you dont have to order 100 lots), just get a few of each length & guage & toss them in a ziplock bag. Pick and choose according to time & mood!