This is what you guys come up with for me

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 10:59 PM

After talking to a lot of guys in here and the input that they gave me. I think this cycle is best for me.

Please let me know if I am wrong or mist some thing about this Cycle?
Start Sep / 10 Dec 10 finish Test E

Cycle
Test E 250 Monday 250 2 times 500mg Thursday -13 weeks Total is 650 mg a week.

Nova 10 ml a daily and bump it to 20mg at pct for 1 month after pct.
B 6 200ml a day but not after pct.

PCT 2 weeks after last test shot
Clomid 300 first day ~ 100 for 30 days

b6 200mg a day though out pct

200 mg of B6 Ed during your cycle is fine...I personally would never use 400 mg
You want to use it only during your cycle...not pct...Only clomid and/or nolva for pct

Substance: stanozolol
Delivery: 1amp 50mg every day and id use it for the last 3 or 4 weeks at 50mg eod.

Thanks for your input!

**chest6** · 09-11-2005, 11:05 PM

Why not just inject 1 1/3 cc monday and thursday to make it equal? That is the main thing I see. Im not so sure about needing the B6 either

**bignatt** · 09-11-2005, 11:06 PM

wow that is really confusing

**chest6** · 09-11-2005, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

wow that is really confusing

ya i agree..I cant tell what you have laid out..and what other people told you??

**bignatt** · 09-11-2005, 11:08 PM

hahaa im in the same boat

**ODC0717** · 09-11-2005, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by tawweiliu

After talking to a lot of guys in here and the input that they gave me. I think this cycle is best for me.

Please let me know if I am wrong or mist some thing about this Cycle?
Start Sep / 10 Dec 10 finish Test E

Cycle
Test E 250 Monday 250 2 times 500mg Thursday -13 weeks Total is 650 mg a week.

Nova 10 ml a daily and bump it to 20mg at pct for 1 month after pct.
B 6 200ml a day but not after pct.

PCT 2 weeks after last test shot
Clomid 300 first day ~ 100 for 30 days

b6 200mg a day though out pct

200 mg of B6 Ed during your cycle is fine...I personally would never use 400 mg
You want to use it only during your cycle...not pct...Only clomid and/or nolva for pct

Substance: stanozolol
Delivery: 1amp 50mg every day and id use it for the last 3 or 4 weeks at 50mg eod.

Thanks for your input!

Umm, let's see...this is what I'd do based on what you've got posted...
weeks 1-12: 250mg test enanthate e3d
weeks 1-12: 10mg nolva
weeks 1-12: 200mg B6
weeks 12-14: 50mg winny ed
PCT 2 weeks after last enth shot.
That's what I gathered from what you've posted. Correct? Winny needs to be shot ed because it has no ester. I'd personally run it along side some test prop, then begin you PCT 3 days after you last prop shot. I don't think that you'd need to run the B6. Prolactin usually isin't an issue unless you're using deca or tren . However, if you do use it I would run it throughout the cycle and PCT.

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:25 PM

Week Testosterone Eth mg/week Tamoxifen mg/day Clomid mg/day stanozolol 50/mg

1 650 10 -
2 650 10 -
3 650 10 -
4 650 10 -
5 650 10 -
6 650 10 -
7 650 10 -
8 650 10 -
9 650 10
10 650 10
11 20 300 -
12 20 100 -
13 20 50
14 20 50

Juice needed: 200mg stanozolol
30amps/250mg Testosterone Eth
126 tabs of Tamoxifen
20 tabs of Clomid

**bignatt** · 09-11-2005, 11:26 PM

dude this is evevn more confusing

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:30 PM

bignatt I will take for 12 week

12 weeks 30amps/250mg Testosterone Eth

4 weeks 200mg stanozolol

126 tabs of Tamoxifen

20 tabs of Clomid

Sorry not to good at charts lol

**bignatt** · 09-11-2005, 11:32 PM

so wk1-12 500mg of test?
wk8-12 50mg of stanz daily?

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:34 PM

no one week 650 mg test eth

stanzreally what do you think I should take daily?? for 4 weeks

**chest6** · 09-11-2005, 11:34 PM

I think he was goin for 650 test..but i would go for 12 weeks..10 too short for you...and from that I get winny for 2 weeks? huh? lol sorry im still confused

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:35 PM

yes it is 12 weeks

Winny is 4 weeks

**bignatt** · 09-11-2005, 11:38 PM

ok i think 650 is a little high 500 should be fine

SpringsBridge7 · 09-11-2005, 11:43 PM

? I dont know whats going on. All i know is enan and winny will be involved. My advice dont take peice of advice from everyone you talk to on here and throw it together. Not good. Just list your stats and what you trying to acheive. Look up steroid profiles see what intrests you. Then talk to a respected memeber ONE of them and do that.

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:44 PM

ok But a lot of guys told me if only doing 1 test then do 650 and I just buy it today lol
Is it because of the Winny thats why you only want me to de 500mg of test??

**Seattle Junk** · 09-11-2005, 11:47 PM

I would consider 250mgs e3d. Keep your blood levels even.

**C_Bino** · 09-11-2005, 11:48 PM

Well this was pretty good for a laugh man. I couldnt figure out what the hell was going on. But neways what the guys already said should be good, 500mg/week Test E for 12 weeks and I would say 50-75mg/day Winny for 6 weeks.

-Bino

**C_Bino** · 09-11-2005, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by tawweiliu

ok But a lot of guys told me if only doing 1 test then do 650 and I just buy it today lol
Is it because of the Winny thats why you only want me to de 500mg of test??

I would have to assume this is your first cycle. If this is true you only need 500mg/week because you will get great gains off of that already, no need for the extra.

-Bino

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:50 PM

SpringsBridge7

First off thanks for the note!

Now I moved to Taiwan and can only get some things so I am trying to but some thing together that I can do in a cycle if I was in the USA then I could do other stuff that I know Test Ethe I have never done but that what they got here and Winny stanozolol so its hard to make a good cycle. If you could only use test e and stanozolol

With b6 and Nova also Clomid what would your cycle Look like????

**Tedbear981** · 09-11-2005, 11:51 PM

wow reading this post gave me a headache......250 e3d sounds about right, although I have shot test(sus 250) mon and thurs with good results!

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:52 PM

not my first last cycle was 5 months agao.

**tawweiliu** · 09-11-2005, 11:53 PM

There is no sus 250 Just thest eth and stanozolol thats what I have to work with sorry!

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SpringsBridge7 · 09-12-2005, 12:36 AM

Listen run this cycle, 500mg of test enan a week. Im assuming you have enan 250 which means that it is 250mg/ml. So if you want to do 500mg a week which will do a amazing job. Take a 1cc shot on monday, then a 1cc shot on Thursday. Do this for 12 weeks. Then on week 13 take start taking 50mg of winny every day for 4 weeks. Start your PCT on week 15. Hope this helps and this is all you need.

**Jray1der** · 09-12-2005, 01:31 PM

Man, this was crazy! Just when i thought i had the whole thing about cycles figured out, someone goes and throws this curveball and damn near confuses the hell out of me. Luckily i've read enough to figure the do's and don'ts. But if you only have access to Test En. and Winny, then go with this cycle:

wks 1-12 Test En. 500mg (monday 1cc 250mg, thursday 1cc 250mg)
wks 1-16 Nolva 20mg everyday
wks 13-16 Winny 50mg everyday( total 350mg per week)
Start PCT 3-4 days after last Test En. shot
4 wks of PCT
Wk 1, day 1 Clomid 300mg, day 2-7 100mg everyday
wks 2-4 Clomid 100mg everyday.
Done!
No need for B-6, B-6 used in Tren , Fina, Deca cycles, so disregard B-6 altogether.
What are your stats? What are you trying to accomplish? And what is your diet like?
Nad also, you better get something for joints, ligaments, and cartilage, because winny is gonna give you some problems in that area. Any of you Bro's have any recommendations for joint and ligament relief? Maybe Chondrotin and Glucosamin? Hope this info helps you. Good Luck!

**taquipariu** · 09-12-2005, 05:42 PM

Crazy... hehehe

I would say 500mg of Enanthate / Cypionate per Week...

The 50mg of stanozolol daily will really kill your ligaments and joints, I agree... Don´t know what to do here... Maybe mix it with other test, like propionate (short half-life).

I assume your objective is to gain size, and then cut, right? Well, I think you should do 2 cycles. I did them both in a single cycle, but people say it´s very rare to work... With me it worked, but with 3 other friend it didn´t...

Good luck