2 weeks to go... is my PCT almost done?

[stupidhippo]

Ok a strange title but my question is a lil weird also. Im on a week 13 on test / deca cycle. There is a big possibility that the secod half of my gear is bunk but I am getting so controversial signals so I am really puzzled. Until beginning of week 9 I had legit gear for sure. Week 10 I completely plateaud and by now I actually have lost a lil stregth. If indeed my gear is bunk would it be good to know so I could go to PCT.. otherwise I end up being off gear for 7 weeks without PCT

signs indicating that the gear is legit:

- I have not lost weight and the stregth losses are not that big.

- at no point have I lost my sex drive

- I have had some bacne after breaking out at week 9 and it still there.

- Im holding more water than ever right now

signs indicating my gear was bunk:

- such a sudden plateauing and dropping

- had a 2 week period of fatigue and maybe depression like symptoms (getting better now), it can be also this flue that is goin around with long mild start, i finally got properly sick 2 weeks ago and was away from the gym 4 a week.

- dont feel like Im on test anymore... 3 weeks ago felt sorta insecure at public places which I never normally do. but this varies a lil daily

- still more tired than normal which also could be the flue.

- not experiencing the same drive in the gym

- now I feel that since Im frocing down food Ive actually gained a lil fat - b4 I was losiing it.. so maybe if im not on anymore my calories are too high.

- my nuts have grown back maybe a lil....

Especially the sexdrive thing is very confusing to me.. See my dilemma? If I indeed was using bunk gear Im gonna end up losing most of my gains too since many weeks late from starting PCT..

Sum1 help!!

[JohnnyB]

The plateauing could be your reached the limit of your calorie intake

JohnnyB

[stupidhippo]

I guess but I started to gain fat and not lose it like I did the first 10 weeks. Like u prolly see Im getting very mixed signals.. In theory: if the gear is bunk but I do the cycle to the end ansd actually end up having like 7-8 weeks between last shot and PCT.. how potentially harmful is this to kept gains?

[stupidhippo]

I really could use a lil help here since Im kinda puzzled and dunno what to do..

[IBdmfkr]

Make your own gear, that way you don't have this worry.

[stupidhippo]

hehe.. true.. but that wont help me now.. Like my main worrry is that how much damage will I end up getting to my PCT IF it starts 8 weeks too late..

[mranak]

Sounds to me like the gear is good. Gear isn't magical.

If you really think the gear is _maybe_ bunk, however, then discontinue the use of the gear, run Nolvadex at maybe 20mg/day for two weeks, then do a regular/full blown PCT. If you are _sure_ the gear is bunk, then yeah...discontinue and run PCT.

[stupidhippo]

yeah , thats the problem. . I know gear aint magic but until week 9 I was getting great gains and now at week 13 I am noticably weaker than week 9. The weight is the same but I feel I gained some fat and water since week 9.. I have so mixed signals but have a hunch that the second half (diffrent source also) of gear could be bunk..

[IBdmfkr]

Has your diet or training changed in the last month? Could you be overtrained? There are a lot of unanswered questions, we have no idea about your gear. I'd just stop the cycle and do PCT. Next time order from a reliable source.

[stupidhippo]

these are all possibilities.. I got sick 4 a week and the 2 weeks b4 I felt like I was getting sick. I still dont feel that healthy. but to my logic even if I was sick my test / deca should have been enough to keep me at least level - not go to a catabolic state. Then Im also feeling many of the traditional PCT symptoms , occasional lethargy, lack of energy etc.. So I have like 2 weeks of test prop left so I was thinknig of doing that now and then PCT. My question : how much damage have I done in regards to gains kept with the 8 weeks of bunk gear (if indeed bunk)