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10-12-2005, 01:53 AM #1Junior Member
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Winny Only
I've read conflicting reports about doing a Winstrol -only cycle. Anyone have any idea of what to expect from using winny and just protein supplements and creatine? I'm not going to just put it away for later use. I'll go ahead and try it. Suggestions would help. Thanks.
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10-12-2005, 04:33 AM #2Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by seadam
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10-12-2005, 04:42 AM #3
ditto on above
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10-12-2005, 04:47 AM #4Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by MuckDog
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10-12-2005, 04:51 AM #5
dont expect much off just winny
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10-12-2005, 05:29 AM #6Junior Member
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DEEZUHL, when you said you didn't get much from your 1st cycle, what did you mean exactly? Nothing at all? I'm looking to shred a bit...don't care about size right now.
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10-12-2005, 05:32 AM #7
spring breaks come early then by the sounds of it.......
dont do winny only, do more research. you need something to replace the testosterone your body WONT be producing!
do it with test of some sort, if your cutting then go for prop!
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10-12-2005, 05:36 AM #8Junior Member
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Are you saying that I have to do some type of test? If I prefer not to can I use EQ with the Winny?
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10-12-2005, 05:43 AM #9
yes u can, but its best to use a test. no matter what gear u use, it will stop your body from naturally producing its own testosterone , or at least slow its production WAAAAY down.
how come you dont want to use a testosterone? its the base for ANY cycle IMO
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10-12-2005, 05:50 AM #10
yea go with some test
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May sound weird but I've fallen prey to the war stories about Test and side effects. People always talk about EQ and Deca being safe to stack w/ winny. Using test seems a bit scary. Then I've heard that if one does use test you have to use 500mg/wk. I was thinking more like 350mg/wk MAXIMUM...along with Winny eod.
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10-12-2005, 05:55 AM #12Junior Member
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If one doesn't use Test prop with winny is using Tren with winny good? I've also heard some nasty stories about tren and side effects.
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10-12-2005, 05:57 AM #13
if this is your first cycle why not try sust @ 250 mg per week then use your winy along with it if you want, if not, the sust will be enough
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10-12-2005, 06:08 AM #14Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by seadam
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10-12-2005, 07:00 AM #15Junior Member
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Are the side effects for Sust 250/wk for a first cycle as bad as some reports claim?
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10-12-2005, 07:26 AM #16
it sounds like u only have winny and ur pretty adiment about using it. i used winny for a first cycle....QV 50mg EOD for 6 weeks and saw decent results. put on 10bls and leaned up....diet on check of course and followed by proper PCT. i would start taking Glucosamine now for your joints.
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No, I have EQ as well. I just keep hearing about how test is the only way to go. I'm more interested in the EQ/Winny stack. Do you have suggestions for proper PCT after EQ/winny stack? I will be taking Winny/50mg EOD and 300-400/wk EQ. PCT suggestions?
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10-12-2005, 08:29 AM #18
PCT
start the PCT around 14-21 days after ur last EQ injection.
i would go for NOLVA 40mg/1st week 20mg/there after until recoverd
Tribulus @ 2g day
Creatine ethyl esther every day
maybe Clomid if u already have some
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10-12-2005, 08:36 AM #19Originally Posted by seadam
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10-12-2005, 10:17 AM #20Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by seadam
1-12 eq 400mg ew
9-15 winny 50mg eod
pct starts 24hrs after last winny shot. i would run 100mg clomid and 20mg nolva for 30 days as pct.
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10-12-2005, 10:40 AM #21New Member
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run it with test prop and tren a if u want KILLA results its what im doing at the moment man this shit rocks
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10-12-2005, 10:54 AM #22Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by matty 1 time
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is 150mg eod of test prop and winny 50mg ed a good cycle to put on a little size and get cut or should i up the test dosage>
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10-12-2005, 11:37 PM #24Originally Posted by boardhead
I ran the same cycle and got great results. Id put my pic in my avatar but I cant get it to fit ill send it to you if you want. Had a little joint pain towards the end of the cycle but gained at least 10 lbs and am cut, diet is the key. Aside from the point pain and maybe the hair issue I would run winny only forever
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10-13-2005, 09:46 AM #25Junior Member
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Shorty, I read your last post. I hear ya but you can understand why some fear test. What did you mean when you said the horror stories are from guys taking a gram+ week? For a first time user, I heard that 350 a week of test is plenty but you say 400-500. Do you think 350 is too little along with 50mg/winny ED?
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10-13-2005, 09:52 AM #26Originally Posted by seadam
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10-13-2005, 09:55 AM #27Junior Member
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What "says it all"?
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10-13-2005, 09:56 AM #28Originally Posted by seadam
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10-13-2005, 09:57 AM #29
winstrol is a derivative of di-hydro-testosterone and has quite low androgenic properties,it is normaly use with other compounds in stacks to harden and cut your body,side affects are quite low and you wont gain loads of muscle but what you will do is keep what ever you do gain but gains are very little with winny on its own,,id try just a test only cycle that would be far better and the gains will be excellent,,,
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10-13-2005, 10:00 AM #30Originally Posted by seadam
I've read conflicting reports about doing a Winstrol-only cycle. Anyone have any idea of what to expect from using winny and just protein supplements and creatine? I'm not going to just put it away for later use. I'll go ahead and try it. Suggestions would help. ThanksOriginally Posted by seadam
I think what says it all is the conflicting reports about Winny only cycles, find us a experienced user around here who has ran Test @ 500 mg/wk who give it a conflicting report. But I think Meso is saying, judging by the highlighting, that you are going to do it no matter how much contrary evidence we give you, sorry to say it, but he is usually right.
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10-13-2005, 10:03 AM #31Originally Posted by seadam
Why would you even ask for suggestions? You have already made up your mind. Geez
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10-13-2005, 10:04 AM #32Originally Posted by shortie
But, I usually am.
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10-13-2005, 10:07 AM #33
So wise, and yet humble. You are a beacon unto us all.
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10-13-2005, 10:09 AM #34Junior Member
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Actually, I'm giving it more and more thought to add test prop to the winny cycle for my first time. I don't see myself going as high as 500mg/wk but 400mg/wk sounds ok. Thanks for the advice...also to Meso. Is prop the best to go with for a 1st time test user? Also, I am not looking to pack on unnecssary bodyfat so I need to do some more reserach about dieting using test and winny.
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10-13-2005, 10:23 AM #35
Low dose test like 50mg of prop with the 50mg of winny ed sounds like a decent plan... You wouldn't need an anti estrogen IMO. I would have nolva on hand(always do this).
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50mg of Prop and 50/mg of winny but how often ed or eod? I thought all test needs an anti-Estrogen.
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10-13-2005, 10:33 AM #37Originally Posted by seadam
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10-13-2005, 10:35 AM #38Originally Posted by seadam
Meso also types faster than me-He's my hero!
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10-13-2005, 11:08 AM #39Junior Member
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Meso and Shortie, so: If I'm going to try 400mg/wk of prop (no higher) how do you suggest that goes each week? Should I immediately begin with 400/wk or work up to that? When would you put in the winny? Lastly, how long should the cycle last? Thanks again
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10-13-2005, 11:15 AM #40
Since this is your first, I would take 350mg/week of each compound from the beginning. That is to say inject 50mg of each ed(you could drink the winny if need be). I would go 8 weeks if you use a short ester test like prop.
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week 1-8 prop 50mg ed
week 1-4(no more than 6) winny 50mg ed
Start pct 3 days after last prop shot.
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