With pct put aside for the moment im looking for a good 12 week bulker.. here are my thoughts...

either

test E -600mgs wks 1-13
deca -400mgs wks 1-12
dbol - 40mgs wks 1-4

or

sust- 600mgs wks 1-12
tren A- 350mgs wks 4-12
Npp - 350mgs wks 4-12
anadrol - 50mgs wks 1-4

not sure if its worth it to go from the basic bulker in number 1 vs bulker number 2 which willl cost a bit more. anyone have any ideas? i may start the tren and npp from week 1 also. havnt decided if i want to run it that long tho.