Winter Cycle Addition Question

**boardhead** · 11-01-2005, 01:32 PM

Well,

i am almost finished with my EQ only cycle of 12 weeks and am about to start PCT in about 14 days. i am now plannin on a winter bulker. keep in mind i have never used test e before.

6'1
212 as of today
14% bf

i was thinking

1-12 Test E @ 500mg

6-12 winni oral @ 50mg ED
or
6-12 TBOL @ 50mg ED (wanted to run TBOL)
proper PCT

what kind of results do you think i would see from the TBOL?

**boardhead** · 11-01-2005, 01:49 PM

BUMP _ any ideas guys

winni oral or tbol (havent tried either)

did winni inj. once with good success alone

**boardhead** · 11-01-2005, 02:14 PM

ok...what about this

1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
1-6 TBOL 40mg/day
7-12 Winni 50mg/day
liquidex .25day
nolva on hand

{(dont want to run to 17A together

PCT with nolva and clomid
creatine

**JiGGaMaN** · 11-01-2005, 02:24 PM

yikes, you are not even finished your current cycle and ready to start another one? give yourself at least 12 weeks off. also dont you think running a 17AA compound for 12 weeks is a bit crazy??

**boardhead** · 11-01-2005, 02:35 PM

i wasnt going to start this cycle anytime soon...just brainstorming

time on = time off

i was thinkin maybe march or april of 2006

so 17AA for 12 weeks isnt a good idea...
maybe ill just drop eitehr the tbol or winnie and just run one.

being that ive never run test e before..i should already be getting nice results..
ill just keep it simple

**shortie** · 11-01-2005, 02:38 PM

I wouldn't run them both(winny/tbol) together, either simultaneously or back to back without a few weeks off. If you are going for a bulker use tbol start at 40 mg ed if you like it move up to 60 mg ed IMO. And I see nothing wrong with planning ahead, it seems to keep me going when I go to the gym post cycle I keep thinking the only way I can do that next stack in 3 months is if I am in good shape.

**CapnZ** · 11-01-2005, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by boardhead

i wasnt going to start this cycle anytime soon...just brainstorming

time on = time off

i was thinkin maybe march or april of 2006

so 17AA for 12 weeks isnt a good idea...
maybe ill just drop eitehr the tbol or winnie and just run one.

being that ive never run test e before..i should already be getting nice results..
ill just keep it simple

If you've never done test e before - I would consider running just the test for the cycle to see how you react. At most add one more compund. What are you looking for out of the next cycle - bulking? lean mass?

**boardhead** · 11-01-2005, 02:44 PM

well,, i am bigger guy..so i really dont want to BLOAT all that much...so most likely lean body mass..

my diet is in check and so is my cardio..i just would like a little more mass

**Smak** · 11-01-2005, 02:49 PM

Yea I would at least take 10-12 weeks off after your PCT is complete even though EQ is pretty mild. EQ only was your first cycle correct? I just finished wrapped up my PCT from a previous Prop/EQ cycle and i'm really anxious to start my next cycle, but I just think of it this way. Every day is a day closer to my next cycle so it helps to keep me stay motivated.

**Smak** · 11-01-2005, 02:53 PM

Test prop would work better with winstrol if you're looking for lean mass w/o any bloat. Prop/eq/winstrol would be even better.

**Smedman101** · 11-01-2005, 03:02 PM

Ever tried Fina?

**boardhead** · 11-01-2005, 03:02 PM

cant do the ED or EOD shots this time around.....
ive done test prop/tren before but cut it short cause of sides....

i think im going to stick with
1-12 test e 500mg/wk
6-12 winni oral 50mg/wk
liq .25day
nolva on hand
proper PCT

I CANT WAIT....AHHHHHHHHHHH

**chuck89gt5.0** · 11-01-2005, 10:07 PM

Some advice that will help you look better in the end....if you are 14%bf do not start a "bulker" because you will most likely end up being a bit chubby. Get your bf down to around 10% then bulk the results will look much better~