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12-10-2005, 11:55 PM #41Originally Posted by USMCSS
I have that effect on people.
no, really, tin, just go with test. its far better than deca by itself.
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12-10-2005, 11:55 PM #42Associate Member
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Originally Posted by TinTin78
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12-10-2005, 11:55 PM #43
Big K.l.g, I read in some other site that finasteride was a big NONO with deca , what do you know about that?
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12-10-2005, 11:59 PM #44
ahhhhh, ok we can see you are VERY stubborn. So here is the deal. If you want to avoid all these problems with DECA ONLY, then run a test only, or test with deca. There is no way around it, so sorry. But if you want to run this cycle, then GO AHEAD. we gave you advice, but it seems like your not listening.
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12-10-2005, 11:59 PM #45Associate Member
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Originally Posted by TinTin78
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12-11-2005, 12:02 AM #46Junior Member
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hey bro im not rippin ya but seriously dude you are not ready for juice .. you want all the positives but are scared of any side effect you may get .. you have to be ready to step out and deal with some probs .. possible painful shots , infections , test flu , impatience waiting for gear to kick in . temper heating up , morning wood all day , getting an abcess , or getting busted and doing time , friends and family finding out and trashing your rep for life . if you arent ready for this then go to gnc and get some supplements and work youre ass off and you will get results.... good luck on whatever you do
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12-11-2005, 12:02 AM #47
I am 27 so I am not to young or anything, I think it is a good timing, my training have been kinda standing still for a long while. So I want this boost, but I would like to avoid bloating, it makes it so obvious that you are on a cycle. I know it does not happen to everyone, but anyhow it is good to avoid. There will be less to get rid of later when I cut in the spring also.
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12-11-2005, 12:05 AM #48
Bigron, nice comment, it makes out some good points, most concern lies in the hair area and family finding out for me, the rest I can deal with. That's why I want to avoid unnecessary bloat.
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12-11-2005, 12:26 AM #49Originally Posted by TinTin78
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12-11-2005, 12:38 AM #50
how can you shoot that shit into your sack man??? Do you numb that shit before you stick it in, or at least rub some ice on it???
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12-11-2005, 01:12 AM #51
Personally, I think you need to stay away from all juice for several more years. In that time continue to eat right, lift right, and do more research. Right now you know just enough to possibly hurt yourself. I don't want to read about you in the paper.
peace,
ttgb
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12-11-2005, 01:20 AM #52VET Retired
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Originally Posted by TinTin78
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12-11-2005, 02:43 AM #53Originally Posted by TinTin78
you have a lot to learn about steroids and you should completely avoid them for now
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12-11-2005, 04:59 AM #54Originally Posted by New Orleans survivor
Your gonna be just like this guy with your cycle. Why not just add the test or even the sust bro? Is it really that big of a deal? Your arguing with people that are trying to help you and your obviously the one that needs the help not them. You act like the test is anthrax or some kind of poisen lol.
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12-11-2005, 06:34 AM #55
If you are going to shoot the deca in your balls, don't forget a proper PCT by sticking the clomid up your ass. You're gonna love the results.
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12-11-2005, 07:34 AM #56Originally Posted by chest6
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12-11-2005, 07:47 AM #57
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12-11-2005, 11:14 AM #58
Yes, I think test enant would be my preferred choice as well, I will look around and see if I can find it.
It sounds like you had trouble gaining with the deca , just like one other guy said. But he said his strength is good, I would say his diet is out of order.
I know there is alot of things to learn, that's why I started an own thread, but I don't have to wait a couple of years, come on, most of you guys did this alot younger than me. I just need a cycle that last maximum of 12w and the knowledge of different compounds wich are not so easy to find. I mean if I get gyno and have to up the nolva, would that effect the finasteride and other thing? I know it is a big balance walk with all these different preps.
I ask alot of questions, because I don't want to start a thread 3 weeks in named "what the hell, gyno, what shall I do?" I want everything at home first and that's why I ask all this, and not to irritate you and not take advice. It is the opposite, and I have almost everything cleared for me. Now it's just the appropiate dosage of everything...
Week 1-10 deca 400mg
week 1-12 test E 500mg? (or just 200 to keep my system ok)
proviron dosage? and timespan? (ops, I missed timm said 50mg ED, but for how long?)
nolva in case of gyno, dosage if it occurs and timespan?
week 13-15 PCT, the recommended here, Hcg , clomid or a higher dose of nolva?
Finasteride during the whole cycle and 1 more month?
I would appreciate the answers for this, and not just complaints in lack of knowledge, thank you.
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12-11-2005, 12:37 PM #59
If this is your first cycle, then definitely do a test/deca cycle. It is still my preferred cycle after many different variations. You will only grow so much in one cycle anyway, of course depending on the key ingredients diet/rest/training.
test en 500mg ew split into 2 shots a week
deca 400mg ew split into 2 shots a week
run both for 12 weeks. mix both in the same shot. will help with some of the soreness from the test.
have nolvadex on hand in case any sensitive nipples start up. If so, run at 20mg ed until gone.
run .5mg of ldex each day for water bloat.
Run the standard PCT clomid and nolvadex post cycle.
Everything should turn out fine like this. Of course, it is your body and your decision, but this is a tried and true safe cycle for many, many years now. And...there are never any guarantees. But start here and see how your body reacts. Good luck.
peace,
ttgb
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12-11-2005, 03:00 PM #60
Thank's, that gyno, if it begins and I use nolva, does it go away and if not and I stop the cycle, does it still remain if I do the Pct? How common is it with gyno anyway, I heard some say that the most common beauty operation for men is gyno. It is still a slow process but if someone is prone, how fast will you usually notice it?
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12-11-2005, 03:02 PM #61
It looks like pictures of big bodybuilders like Arnold and Lou ferrigno as if they never have gotten it. You can't see any operation marks under there breast or so. I mean these guys juiced alot and still got away, did they do accurate Pct at that time?
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12-11-2005, 03:31 PM #62
tintin u re kidding about everybody helping you
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12-11-2005, 03:56 PM #63
No I am not, but is it forbidden to ask certain questions I want answered?
I have gotten the deca by the way zomzom, how are your cycle plans going, still going for deca and Test E?
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12-11-2005, 04:00 PM #64Associate Member
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Originally Posted by TinTin78
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12-11-2005, 04:40 PM #65I have gotten the deca by the way zomzom, how are your cycle plans going, still going for deca and Test E?
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12-11-2005, 05:34 PM #66
alright, you have a very nice shape in your avatar, I might have trouble finding Enanthate or prop, otherwise I will do sustanon with ldex or proviron like these guys told before. Have you taken deca before zomzom? I got a hold of the pakistanian I hope they are good.
May I ask what cycles you have done in the past zomzom?
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12-11-2005, 06:05 PM #67Originally Posted by USMCSS
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12-11-2005, 06:10 PM #68Originally Posted by Darkness
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12-11-2005, 06:14 PM #69
I prefer real love also, but you might never feel how that is like, and that is old shit a page back you are talking about and already ventilated by two other guys. I did not say I don't like girls, I mostly wanted to point out that I don't train at the gym for girls.
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12-11-2005, 07:41 PM #70
Correct me if I am wrong, but sex is working out, not many chicks do much, we do the shit and that is some hard cardio.
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12-11-2005, 08:09 PM #71
im running 875mg of test -e 600mg of deca and 30mg of d-bol for first four weeks on a 14 cycle week no problems so far lil bloating but is natural with deca getting hell of nice results though ...damn sure need some test in your cycle with deca though good luck~gg
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12-12-2005, 03:08 PM #72
The bloat that arrives, will it all go away or is it really hard to get the face area back to were it was before? Some look so damn bloated for a long time, so I thought maybe it's hard to get rid of the bloat after?
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