football

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 02:01 PM

ok, ok, ok,

**fanatic** · 12-20-2005, 02:14 PM

Are you a pro, collegiate or high school player?

**LB 35** · 12-20-2005, 02:15 PM

If you are so worried about bloat I wouldnt run Test E and Deca , Id run Prop and maybe EQ, and run L-dex during the cycle. As far as orals I would go with var or halo to gain a lot of strength.

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 02:19 PM

i was on the houston texans practice sqaud for a few weeks at the begining of the year. right now im not on any team, but im going to try again this summer.

im not realy that woried about bloat, im a defensive end, so yea. but if you take nolva it shouldent be that much of a problem. what do you guys think.

**LB 35** · 12-20-2005, 02:29 PM

Your 5'9 182lbs and u played DE for the Houston Texans???

**LB 35** · 12-20-2005, 02:30 PM

I hope your profile isnt right about that

**edmen2** · 12-20-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by LB 35

Your 5'9 182lbs and u played DE for the Houston Texans???

damn bro thats a small corner in the nfl! even a highschool d ine s bigger than that.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 12-20-2005, 03:18 PM

no way ur 5'9 and play DE for the texans ... not even on the practice squad would they allow that

**longhorn814** · 12-20-2005, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

no way ur 5'9 and play DE for the texans ... not even on the practice squad would they allow that

have you guys actually watched the Texans play this year?? Theyre sucking pretty bad! Maybe if this guy made the team, they would be better!

If you get tested, dont take deca , it can be detected for up to 18 months

**PaulieM.** · 12-20-2005, 03:23 PM

regardless of your size. i think a simple 500mg sustanon and 200mg tren enanthate every week will work wonders for you. i played ball and i was a fullback(at 250!), i took everything i could get my hands on, but for athletic performance test, tren and winstrol were always my favorites.

**DBflash21** · 12-20-2005, 03:27 PM

wow, 5'9 182 on an NFL d-line, I bet your mowing them over huh? I'm a collegiate DB and im 6'1 180 bro, you're gonna need a little more then steroids to help you out on this one

**Vegas67** · 12-20-2005, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by DBflash21

wow, 5'9 182 on an NFL d-line, I bet your mowing them over huh? I'm a collegiate DB and im 6'1 180 bro, you're gonna need a little more then steroids to help you out on this one

LMAO maybe a pass rush specialist.

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 03:35 PM

guys, im not 5-9 182. are you kidding me, no one is that small, even corners or safties. i just wrote that down for my profile, along with a fake name and everything else, because i wanted to post on this board but not let everyone know who i em. im 6-3 and about 278 pounds. and no, im not going to tell you what my name is. paulie m, doesent tren hurt your indurance big time?

**Vegas67** · 12-20-2005, 03:38 PM

Tren would be rough if you are actually working out with the team...but great if you were bulking up. Climbing the stairs into my gym is tough when on tren.

**DBflash21** · 12-20-2005, 03:42 PM

So you lie about your profile but you want us to believe your in the NFL? doesn't work with me, but whatever, good look with your situation, i'm kind of in the same predicament (spell check) anyways people feel i should take tren , but I don't want to take it if it will kill my endurance, because being a DB thats all I do is run, run, run!

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 03:45 PM

yea, what did jose consaco use? because he got realy big, but kept his indurance and speed.

**DBflash21** · 12-20-2005, 03:51 PM

I think he is known for taking winstrol , that's what gives you speed and endurance.

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 03:54 PM

so, what would happen if you ran winstrol with test e, deca , and dbol . ??

**DBflash21** · 12-20-2005, 03:57 PM

Damn man, I'm not a steroid expert, but since we're both athletes I'm not sure if you want to stack that many all together, I'm planing on doing a cycle of test with either stacking winstrol , or using it at then end to ensure lean muscle mass, followed by PCT

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 04:02 PM

yea, but your a db, im on the d-line

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 04:03 PM

db flash, what do you think i should be taking?

**longhorn814** · 12-20-2005, 04:07 PM

winstrol dries out your joints and can make you more injury prone, not good if youre playing football

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 04:08 PM

what would you sugest then

**Vegas67** · 12-20-2005, 04:49 PM

At 278# how much bigger does a DE need to get? I played LB at Div 1 level and at 6' I lost a lot of lateral speed when I got much over 230. Anyway...good old test is still hard to beat with the right anti e.

**DBflash21** · 12-20-2005, 05:21 PM

I'm sorry man this all doesn't add up. If you make the NFL strength normally isn't the issue, don't the Texans have a workout plan? Aren't there guys on the team that could help you out? Just seems wierd that a professional athlete is on this board asking amatures what to take. Good luck tho.

**roger24** · 12-20-2005, 07:35 PM

im a quiet guy, i keep to myself. i was only with the texans for a week and a half, and yes, im plenty strong, but i want to get stronger. the guys on the team wouldent tell me much of anything. so, im asking for your help, because ive only started juicing about a year ago.

**edmen2** · 12-20-2005, 11:43 PM

correct me if im wrong but doesnt the nfl have a strict no tolerance drug policy? and yes i know there are ways around it but not with long acting esters i was thinking something along the lines of test suspension or slin.

**roger24** · 12-21-2005, 01:22 PM

no, you can use anything as long as your smart. most guys use dried urine, i think onterio smith of the vikings got caught with his. so no, drug tests arent a problem.

**edmen2** · 12-21-2005, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by roger24

no, you can use anything as long as your smart. most guys use dried urine, i think onterio smith of the vikings got caught with his. so no, drug tests arent a problem.

i find that hard to believe cause if u just told all of cyberspace how to beat the test dont u think the testers also know. eric brown former texan and bronco is a friend of mine and he told me that ur butt naked in front of the collector who holds the bottle for you. kinda hard to beat that.

**Trapzilla01** · 12-21-2005, 02:31 PM

Dont stack dbol and winni together, use one or the other, for solid strength gains, tren a is the best. use with test e, and even a lil winni at the end wouldnt hurt. And i think jose canseco was using hgh as well. good luck.

**DBflash21** · 12-21-2005, 05:46 PM

Trap... I've heard from a few people that Tren will KILL endurance, is that true? because being a football player obviously endurance is more important then strenght?

**Trapzilla01** · 12-21-2005, 05:51 PM

yeah it definatly will, but he said he wasnt working out with a team right now so he can afford it, but if you are doing an off season football workout, there is no way you should take tren