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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    sooo...we should outlaw this
    did not say that did i???
    all i said was that alcohol does affect the way people act!moderation excluded,but how many stop at 1 or 2?then go for a ride and kill some one's ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    A functioning alcoholic is someone who can function in spite of his alcoholism (masking his disease), as long as he has a drink every few hours. If you took away the alcohol for a few days it would be hard for him to function.

    Typically the person doesn’t use alcohol with peers or appear to others around him to be under the influence. Here are a couple of true examples of functional alcoholism. A woman picked up her daughter at the airport on her first trip home from college. She said, "I came alone because I have something to tell you. I’m an alcoholic." The first thing the daughter said was, "But I’ve never seen you drunk." And the mother’s reply was, "That’s correct, but you haven’t ever seen me sober either." This was a competent woman who trained horses, gave riding lessons, and was raising her children… yet she had a couple of glasses of wine at regular intervals all throughout the day to keep her going.

    Another person, a successful businessman, admitted to me (once he was sober) that he had had the following routine as a drinker: first thing in the morning, he had two Jack Daniels and coffees, one at home and one on the way to work. That was about eight ounces of alcohol by 9:00 in the morning. Then he would have two doubles at lunch, which is probably six more ounces, and then two more doubles in the restaurant in his office building before he left the office, and then he would have two or three when he arrived home. So that was at least 32 ounces per day, every day, for many years. Those are some illustrations of functioning alcoholism. Functional alcoholics may be well over the legal limit for driving, yet no one knows they are under the influence.

    Most functioning alcoholics have what I call maintenance levels in their systems. They wake up in the morning, begin drinking up to that level and then maintain it.
    ok wtf is your point? if it was not legall he would have the same rutine only it would be moonshine

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    did not say that did i???
    all i said was that alcohol does affect the way people act!moderation excluded,but how many stop at 1 or 2?then go for a ride and kill some one's ass!
    yes irresponsible people. c'mon guys laws won't fix anything you have mentioned

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    Bro im not saying that we should have laws out the ass. i think allot of them are total b.s. but the facts are that alcohol is the most dangerous substen. so if you aliment that you will lesson the dangers of the others.

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    crack kills people...wait that's illegall. um heroin kills people, no wait that is illegall, see the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Bro im not saying that we should have laws out the ass. i think allot of them are total b.s. but the facts are that alcohol is the most dangerous substen. so if you aliment that you will lesson the dangers of the others.
    you can't eliminate it

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    never said you could 100% but you shore as shit can reduce it.

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    they should band it now. right befor new years just to piss everone off.



    That would be funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    never said you could 100% but you shore as shit can reduce it.
    yes you would stop the law abiding citizens from drinking, guess what, those people aren't killing anyone

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    If you aren't disciplined enough to resist drinking you prob aren't disciplined enough to be taking AAS in the first place.....why don't you snort some yey while you're at it!

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    LOL we have 13 people in this tread

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodypaul
    Just a question ... how much alcohol do you guys drink when on roids? Do you cut down? Do you abstain for the whole cycle? Do you just drink at weekends? .... or what?

    I am just interested as I enjoy a few drinks every now and then!!


    Sorry, for the Hyjack.

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    yo paul, to answer your question...no gsxxr wouldn't. me yes in moderation if i am not on orals. sorry about your thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Sorry, for the Hyjack.
    damn beat me to it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Khadafi
    If you aren't disciplined enough to resist drinking you prob aren't disciplined enough to be taking AAS in the first place.....why don't you snort some yey while you're at it!
    ??? what is yey?

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    thanks for gettn me all pumped up. later, off to the gym

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    That is right they all do. But none of them effect how people act.
    couldnt agree more

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    ??? what is yey?
    white powder

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    thanks for gettn me all pumped up. later, off to the gym

    That is the same thing i was thing.

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    i had a bad few years w/ alcohol & bottom line in my book, if u r serious about gaining muscle, DONT DRINK DURING A CYCLE!! Its not that ur liver is in harms way, but alcohol weakens u, dehydrates u & inhibits gains, fills u up so u dont eat right. these r a few to mention. but on a cycle ur main focus of substances going into ur body should only be ur supps & AAS. i mean a glass of wine or beer off a cycle is good, but the college drinking mentality doesn't fit into the weight room or exercise regime.

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    I think that making new laws will not change the way people act. It will just take more of our rights away and in about 50 more years after we have no righs we are most likely going to be slaves. What is next? There is many places in the U.S where u can't own a gun now.
    People should be allowed to drink alcohol, just keep it safe and don't over drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    A functioning alcoholic is someone who can function in spite of his alcoholism (masking his disease), as long as he has a drink every few hours. If you took away the alcohol for a few days it would be hard for him to function.

    Typically the person doesn’t use alcohol with peers or appear to others around him to be under the influence. Here are a couple of true examples of functional alcoholism. A woman picked up her daughter at the airport on her first trip home from college. She said, "I came alone because I have something to tell you. I’m an alcoholic." The first thing the daughter said was, "But I’ve never seen you drunk." And the mother’s reply was, "That’s correct, but you haven’t ever seen me sober either." This was a competent woman who trained horses, gave riding lessons, and was raising her children… yet she had a couple of glasses of wine at regular intervals all throughout the day to keep her going.

    Another person, a successful businessman, admitted to me (once he was sober) that he had had the following routine as a drinker: first thing in the morning, he had two Jack Daniels and coffees, one at home and one on the way to work. That was about eight ounces of alcohol by 9:00 in the morning. Then he would have two doubles at lunch, which is probably six more ounces, and then two more doubles in the restaurant in his office building before he left the office, and then he would have two or three when he arrived home. So that was at least 32 ounces per day, every day, for many years. Those are some illustrations of functioning alcoholism. Functional alcoholics may be well over the legal limit for driving, yet no one knows they are under the influence.

    Most functioning alcoholics have what I call maintenance levels in their systems. They wake up in the morning, begin drinking up to that level and then maintain it.
    woohoo... I just inject 2ccs of Bacardi 151 and 1cc of B-12 when I wake up.

    (kidding)

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    I drink very rarely, such as a friend's birthday. I stay away from drinking all together otherwise. As for being illigal, I don't they should make it illigal. However, I do think they should raise the prices because from my experience people who go out to have a drink that have jobs, families, and a real life don't seem to have the drunk driving problems. People like this are responsible with their choices.

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    i'm taking 30mg of dbol a day and drink 3 times a week. 27 years old. i mainly drink mixed drinks but i havent' had any problems. no pain or anything

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    Of course you don't have pain, you are all drunk, the people around you feel the pain. I think people who drink are mostly cowards running away from some issue they won't take care of. Meet that beast and beat it... Beat it.. Beat it... Beat it... know you gotta beat it, beat it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff113113
    i'm taking 30mg of dbol a day and drink 3 times a week. 27 years old. i mainly drink mixed drinks but i havent' had any problems. no pain or anything
    You should probably sign up for a liver transplant that way when your liver craps out on you.... (and it will if you continue to do what you do) you'll al ready be on this list.

    Prohibition didnt go over to well with anyone, I dont think it'd be any different this time around.

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    Guns dont kill people, alcohol doesnt kill people and neither does the gear. The problem is you have all these do goody yuppies making things harder for everyone else, I have a lot of freinds that died from guns, drugs and alcohol. Doesnt mean that I will stop carrying my gun or stop drinking, or stop the gear. STOP MAKING THINGS HARDER FOR EVERYONE ELSE GSXXR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodfella1231
    Guns dont kill people, alcohol doesnt kill people and neither does the gear. The problem is you have all these do goody yuppies making things harder for everyone else, I have a lot of freinds that died from guns, drugs and alcohol. Doesnt mean that I will stop carrying my gun or stop drinking, or stop the gear. STOP MAKING THINGS HARDER FOR EVERYONE ELSE GSXXR!

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    Drinking won't help you accomplish anything, it sure won't make you stronger, and it sure won't put any money in your pocket, I can promise you that! This this the U.S., so its everyone's choice, if you make that choice, please don't get behind the wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBBY D
    i had a bad few years w/ alcohol & bottom line in my book, if u r serious about gaining muscle, DONT DRINK DURING A CYCLE!! Its not that ur liver is in harms way, but alcohol weakens u, dehydrates u & inhibits gains, fills u up so u dont eat right. these r a few to mention. but on a cycle ur main focus of substances going into ur body should only be ur supps & AAS. i mean a glass of wine or beer off a cycle is good, but the college drinking mentality doesn't fit into the weight room or exercise regime.

    BOBBY D

    my thoughts exactly

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    You 2 need to take that argument somewhere else.

    Ive said it before, my best friend drank while on a summer cycle of test only.
    He did this for 3 years in college.
    5 years later at age 30 he died in his sleep on my couch.
    The doctor told me that his liver was pure bile/liquid and since he was so "strong" the rest of his body help the lagging organ.
    That was 3 years ago.

    So guess what? The damage was done without pain but killed him years later.
    Cheers!

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    The most crucial time to avoid alcohol is during PCT. That is when your body is trying to recover its natural testosterone . To drink moderately while on an anabolic cycle is not that awful, because the extra hormones are coming from exogenous sources. The juice will be in your blood whether there is alcohol or not. That being said, I agree that too much alcohol is not good for a fit body, but in my opinion, its a lot more important to not drink when off rather than when on. One of the biggest problems with alcohol is that it tends to lower one's natural testosteone. If one is on a heavy cycle, their test is already lowered from the anabolic hormones, so the alcohol doesn't have that much of an effect other than excess calories. Focus on not drinking when natural, a lot more than not drinking when on the sauce.

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    Livers need R&R too...Give your liver a break...the worst thing you can do is never let it recover...

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAYHUNGRY
    The most crucial time to avoid alcohol is during PCT. That is when your body is trying to recover its natural testosterone. To drink moderately while on an anabolic cycle is not that awful, because the extra hormones are coming from exogenous sources. The juice will be in your blood whether there is alcohol or not. That being said, I agree that too much alcohol is not good for a fit body, but in my opinion, its a lot more important to not drink when off rather than when on. One of the biggest problems with alcohol is that it tends to lower one's natural testosteone. If one is on a heavy cycle, their test is already lowered from the anabolic hormones, so the alcohol doesn't have that much of an effect other than excess calories. Focus on not drinking when natural, a lot more than not drinking when on the sauce.
    Thats a very interesting point, bro- is that really true that it lowers natural test? Not that i hardly drink at all these days anyway- but how fvcking frustrating is it when all your mates do and every single fvcking thing that there is to do will always somehow involve fvcking alcohol somewhere along the line?!!! Man that shits me off! Why do so many people feel the need to alter their mind set all the time?? Goddam it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    yes it is and my best friend died 5 years ago on one. would you like me to tell you how. some guy on his way home from the ****ing bar hit is ass.
    Believe me, I know about alcoholics. I know about what drunk drivers can do to hurt people, and I know about the effects of alcohol. Now, let me say again what has been said above.

    ALCOHOL, WHEN USED RESPONSIBLY AND IN MODERATION IS NOT GOING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!

    I personally am one of the people who can stop at 1 or 2. Most of my friends are too. I know the people who can't, and I don't like most of them when they are sober or drunk. They are the same people who would have "roid rage ". Their personalities are to blame, NOT alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    yeah drank last weekend on dbols, BAD idea, vomiting and horrible hangover without drinking much at all. I always learn the hard way
    Yes, the main problem with the hangover is your liver is overwhelmed and you are dehydrated. Orals make this effect worse

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    I will only have a drink once or twice a year... so for me it's not a big problem. I can't belive how many people do drink on cycle though! Wow... For me, I consider it hurting my gains. I'm starting a PH cycle in a month or two... but I'll be completely sober the whole way through.

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    i will like to make a point.

    prohabition didnt work last time round becuase when alcohol was banned it meant a complete ban on beer and wine.

    we live in a new time where our technology and science is at its height. this time around a prohabition on alchohol will not automatically equal a ban on beer or wine becuase we have the technology to remove and control the percentage of alchol in a drink. so we can still have beer with 1% alcohol and same with wine ot 0.5% wine etc...

    also drinks with 1%< alcohol are easier for the liver to handle and are less lickly to cause drunkness in people.

    i agree there should be a restriction in the percentage of alchol in drinks but not a ban on alcohol completly like lets say around 2% max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    cars kill people, lets outlaw them. swimming pools kill people, lets outlaw them, guns kill people lets outlaw them. ect ect. bottom line is that people kill people, not alc. guns, pools whatever
    DITTO

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    I haven't had as much as a drag off a joint, or a sip of beer in over 8 years.

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