hi please give advise!!!!

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-16-2006, 06:28 PM

can some one give me a bulking cycle which will not consist of testosterone and trembolone beacuse i am acne proun and i wish to stay away from them if possible! what cycles can i take please????????

**j martini** · 01-16-2006, 06:36 PM

Most will say no test no cycle. The problem with drugs that are good for bulking is they tend to shut down the HPTA the hardest, so without test that means no sex drive.

Now a cutting cycle maybe different.

**longhorn814** · 01-16-2006, 06:54 PM

at your age, FOOD!!

**Zomboo** · 01-16-2006, 06:58 PM

I agree with J Martini. Most ppl will say if you're not using Test you're not on a real cycle. But I don't know... if you are a beginner, you could always go with the old stand-by of Deca /D-Bol. Or a Deca/Sust/D-bol.
*shrug*
Not saying it's the best in the world or anything, but it is a classic cycle.
Also... it's just a suggestion since you want to stay away from Test.
You could also look into a Deca/Omnadren combo.
There is always Equipoise too.

Do the research.
Read the steroid information available. Look at the side effects, look at the advantages, look at as much info as possible. There is plenty of good info out there and plenty of sites that describe cycles... Learn what you can and THEN make an educated decision.

You're bound to find something that works without using Test.

**Anabolios** · 01-16-2006, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Zomboo

I agree with J Martini. Most ppl will say if you're not using Test you're not on a real cycle. But I don't know... if you are a beginner, you could always go with the old stand-by of Deca /D-Bol. Or a Deca/Sust/D-bol.
*shrug*
Not saying it's the best in the world or anything, but it is a classic cycle.
Also... it's just a suggestion since you want to stay away from Test.
You could also look into a Deca/Omnadren combo.
There is always Equipoise too.

Do the research.
Read the steroid information available. Look at the side effects, look at the advantages, look at as much info as possible. There is plenty of good info out there and plenty of sites that describe cycles... Learn what you can and THEN make an educated decision.

You're bound to find something that works without using Test.

dont tell him deca/dbol ....thats awful and sust is testosterone he said he didnt want that

what is with these noobs giving awful advice lately?

**j martini** · 01-16-2006, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

can some one give me a bulking cycle which will not consist of testosterone and trembolone beacuse i am acne proun and i wish to stay away from them if possible! what cycles can i take please????????

Also remember that most bulking drugs give you acne deca , dbol , anadrol etc. The harsher the drug the more effective usually but this also means more side effects like acne.

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-16-2006, 07:25 PM

so if i take like 600mgs primobolone weekly will it shut me down ????????? i iwll take it for 12 weeks becuse its long acting!!!! i have good axperincies with steriods i cycled 4 times before but now i wish to stay away from testosterone and trembolone! i want to be more safe !

**longhorn814** · 01-16-2006, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

so if i take like 600mgs primobolone weekly will it shut me down ????????? i iwll take it for 12 weeks becuse its long acting!!!! i have good axperincies with steriods i cycled 4 times before but now i wish to stay away from testosterone and trembolone! i want to be more safe !

well if thats the case and you want to be safe, you should wait until youre older

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-16-2006, 07:45 PM

but i dont want to want till i am 21-24 yrs and stay training hard and never see results because without them to see a small difference you have to wait months and months! so if some body will be kind and tell me a good acne safe cycle i will really thank him!!!!

**longhorn814** · 01-16-2006, 07:57 PM

if you knew how to train and eat correctly, then you'll get plenty of results naturally at your age

**Smiley619** · 01-16-2006, 08:37 PM

dont wanna wait til you 21 atleast??how old are you??

**longhorn814** · 01-16-2006, 08:45 PM

the guy just turned 19, but has been cycling since he was 16 or 17. He doesnt think he can grow without steroids .

**arnold123** · 01-16-2006, 08:47 PM

hey, is there any way i can talk to you privately, because i would like to ask you a couple questions concerning your previous cycles, it doesnt really have to do with this thread im in, but i looked at your info and would like to ask some questions send me a message or just reply back on here

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-17-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by arnold123

hey, is there any way i can talk to you privately, because i would like to ask you a couple questions concerning your previous cycles, it doesnt really have to do with this thread im in, but i looked at your info and would like to ask some questions send me a message or just reply back on here

hi you can add me on msn messenger [email protected]

**Swifto** · 01-17-2006, 04:55 PM

Primo could be effective run alone, or with a mild oral. Start at 600mg/wk and adjust the dosage accordingly, comparing gains/sides.

**Booz** · 01-17-2006, 05:20 PM

apart from the fact that you are too young primo is a very weak steroid and i would not class it as a bulking cycle imo!

**flabbywussy** · 01-17-2006, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

hi you can add me on msn messenger [email protected]

right now i'm on a turinabol and anavar cycle and no acne prbs, but i am sweating more.

if anyone offers u stuff they are probably going to rip you off, so ignore them.

**goose** · 01-17-2006, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by booz

apart from the fact that you are too young primo is a very weak steroid and i would not class it as a bulking cycle imo!

Primo can be used in a bulker,Arnold loved the Primo and Dbol combo,I have used this with test and got great results. Primo makes my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primo does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness,which I find great in a bulker.

goose4..

**Hellmaskbanned** · 01-17-2006, 05:38 PM

Just turned 19 and have done 4 cycles already?
Have you researched? You want someone to tell you a cycle without knowing what it does or knowing about it yourself?
research different steroids , find which ones will help with your goals then do that.

whats your stats?

**Booz** · 01-17-2006, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Primo can be used in a bulker,Arnold loved the Primo and Dbol combo,I have used this with test and got great results. Primo makes my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primo does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness,which I find great in a bulker.

goose4..

yes i know that run with test and other compounds, but he does not want to run anythin like test with it,just on its own and personnally primo without somethin like test as the base is not a bulker imo!

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-17-2006, 05:43 PM

5 feet 7 190 pounds in good condition!!!!!!

**Booz** · 01-17-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

5 feet 7 190 pounds in good condition!!!!!!

good condition sounds like your floggin a car!!

**goose** · 01-17-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by booz

yes i know that run with test and other compounds, but he does not want to run anythin like test with it,just on its own and personnally primo without somethin like test as the base is not a bulker imo!

woops my fault,missed that,been a long day,LOL.

It very hard not to have test in a bulker,I would not like to try it.

goose4..

**Booz** · 01-17-2006, 05:48 PM

ahh ive pm'd you mate!!leave it it you have not ran it alone!!

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-17-2006, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by booz

ahh ive pm'd you mate!!leave it it you have not ran it alone!!

so what shall i take then???????? pls give me advise!!! if i take anavar on its own will it help me grow?>>> anavar is very safe for acne and it will not shut you down and its not liver toxic!

**goose** · 01-17-2006, 06:09 PM

Ok this is a good bulker that is safe,but not cheap.

EQ week 1-14 600mgs

Andriol 1-14 560mgs ED

Tbol 60mgs 1-10 weeks

goose4..

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-17-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Ok this is a good bulker that is safe,but not cheap.

EQ week 1-14 600mgs

Andriol 1-14 560mgs ED

Tbol 60mgs 1-10 weeks

goose4..

i think i made up my mind and i am going to take 750mgs test e per week for 12 weeks and 40mg d balls for 5 weeks to kick start and i will take o.5mg aramidex eod to block the estrogen and i was reading if you block the estrogen acne will not be a problem! what do you think ?????????

**goose** · 01-17-2006, 07:15 PM

If you have not done test before start at 500mgs,you will grow like a bean.Dbol at 25mgs for 7 weeks is better,less water=more gains.And less sides.

goose4..

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-17-2006, 07:20 PM

i did a cycle at 500mgs weekly of test e!!!!! and i did 40mg d ball already great gains!

**arnold_of_malta** · 01-17-2006, 07:39 PM

i used precticly all types of steriods ! i like aramidex because it block almost all the estrogen and acne will not be a problem!!!!! i knoe estrogen is good to build more muscel but for me its better some less muscel then get bad acne!!!