is ephendra still illegal?

**sickceli** · 01-20-2006, 08:00 AM

i thought they passed something where its legal again. where can i get some of it?

**Ejuicer** · 01-20-2006, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by sickceli

i thought they passed something where its legal again. where can i get some of it?

Never was completely gone. You could always get it in smaller tabs, 8mg etc. The fda ban has been lifted though due to lack of consistancy from my understanding. Supplement companies are now allowed to include 10mg or less in their supplement blends.

**nbavosa** · 01-20-2006, 02:35 PM

I have 25mgs still, they are yellow swarm and I love them. I picked up 20 cases before they went out.

**powerliftmike** · 01-20-2006, 02:40 PM

I heard some judge in Utah overturned the ban on ephedra. I think special interest groups are mobilizing to get congressional banning, as they are with DHEA. So it may not be around too long.

**sickceli** · 01-20-2006, 02:49 PM

so where do i get em?

**Prada** · 01-20-2006, 03:59 PM

If all sports nutrition doesnt have any heres a link

go to bulk nutrition.com and type "ephedrine" in the search bar on the left

**Milky87** · 01-20-2006, 08:21 PM

ephedra is illegal. Ephedrine (one of the alkaloids) is legal

**amc1885** · 01-20-2006, 08:46 PM

i just bought some from a store called discount sports nutrition im not sure if its a nation wide store but they do carry it.

**powerliftmike** · 01-20-2006, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Milky87

ephedra is illegal. Ephedrine (one of the alkaloids) is legal

Ah, maybe so. I am not too disappointed as I prefer clen over ephedra anyway.

**Milky87** · 01-21-2006, 08:22 PM

I think that it is awsome that they now have d-ephedrine back on the market. Aside from the health risks, the reason why they removed it was that people were 'relatively' easily able to reduce the b-hydroyl group to give methamphetamine. The government must have realised that d-ephedrine only gives l-methamphetamine (the same stuff from Vicks inhalers

Outlaw** · 01-21-2006, 09:22 PM

Yeah, I used to eat alot of the old ripped fuel with ephedra in it. I loved that stuff..

**Mike Dura** · 01-21-2006, 09:34 PM

What's the difference? Is one more powerful?

Originally Posted by Milky87

ephedra is illegal. Ephedrine (one of the alkaloids) is legal

**Igifuno** · 01-22-2006, 12:12 AM

i still get the 25mg pure stuff.. and mix it with 200mg caffine, asprin and yohimbe.. love it...

ephedrine is used as an asthma medicine and can still be acquired if you know how.

i'm switching to clen /t3 soon.

**POSH** · 01-22-2006, 05:06 AM

Love my pre-ban stackers! Wish I could still buy eca stacks, but you can make your own if you have some time to kill. Run a search on it!

**Milky87** · 01-22-2006, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Dura

What's the difference? Is one more powerful?

Ephedra is the raw plant material which contains many different alkaloids, not just ephedrine; Ephedrine is the pure chemical. Many people reacted negatively to the other alkaloids in the ephedra plant rather than just ephedrine.

Also, some companies would standardize extracts for "total alkaloid content", this would mean they were full of the other alkaloids, giving you a low concentration of ephedrine.

Think of it the same way as Yohimbe and yohimbine, or cannabis and dronabinol (THC)

Originally Posted by Igifuno

ephedrine is used as an asthma medicine and can still be acquired if you know how.

You are thinking of psudoephedrine. PSE and ephedrine differ in that ephedrine has its methylamino- and hydroxyl group on the same side as each other while PSE has them on opposite sides. This alteration decreases the stimulation while stil providing the sinus releif.