pin size?

**derelict** · 01-22-2006, 06:03 PM

hey guys, I shooting Quads with 25guage 1'' pins. and shoulders with 25 guage 5/8'' pins...are these too short? I used 1'' in the shoulders before, but decided to change it up. Ive had no problems with the size so far, but should it be a concern of mine?

Im shooting Test E eod.

thanks a bunch!

**Unoid** · 01-22-2006, 06:05 PM

depend son how many ML's and how fat you are.

if you go in a full 5/8" in the delt make sure you're injecting under 1ml. and you gotta be under 12%.

going in 3/4 to 1" on quads is perfect under 2ml.

**derelict** · 01-22-2006, 06:09 PM

im just shooting 1cc in both area's...im guessing that Im floating around 12%bf

would there be any signs to let me know that the pins are too short?

thanks

**beezlebubb666** · 01-22-2006, 06:10 PM

ive alwayws been instructed to use 1'' pins on the delts.. i was inder the impression that 5/8" were for like tri's, calves, traps,... muscles of that sort

**derelict** · 01-22-2006, 06:13 PM

what would go wrong using 5/8? Im not trying to argue, i just dont know what would happen?

**Unoid** · 01-22-2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by derelict

what would go wrong using 5/8? Im not trying to argue, i just dont know what would happen?

well I barely get away with 1/2" 30G when I shoot 1/2ml in the delt, I poke myself all the way in and simple the skin inward.

worst case, you'll inject on the outer part of the muscle, and far worst = you'll go outside muscle = sub Q

**derelict** · 01-22-2006, 10:33 PM

sub Q?

**beezlebubb666** · 01-22-2006, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by derelict

sub Q?

like partialy under the skin

**goalseeker** · 01-22-2006, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Unoid

if you go in a full 5/8" in the delt make sure you're injecting under 1ml. and you gotta be under 12%.

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why under 1ml? Ive shot 2.5ml in there before...

**derelict** · 01-23-2006, 10:05 PM

Ive done only one Inj. on my shoulder and i had no problems. my next comes up this thursday, is it worth tossing the 50 5/8'' pins i just bought and get something else? I dont think I need 1'', what can you guys suggest?

thanks a bunch

**nate3422** · 01-23-2006, 10:28 PM

i use 23g inch and a half everywhere

**goalseeker** · 01-23-2006, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by nate3422

i use 23g inch and a half everywhere

yes.. these pins are perfect....

**Unoid** · 01-23-2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

why under 1ml? Ive shot 2.5ml in there before...

I said if you poke youreself and the needle only goes in 5/8" of an inch, then I wouldn't inject more than under a ML. you're at the surface of the muscle tissue.
I doubt the surface would handle 2.5ml's too well