please help...heart arrythmia

[lucidp]

Hi all,

I am currently in my second week on a dbol ,test,eq cycle.

I've noticed since i've started taking the dbol that my heart
beats a little irregularly at night when i'm lying down to sleep.
Now I believe that I might have arrhythmia. I usually have it
when I'm lying down to sleep only. It beats normally and then
i feel a vibration in my chest and it seems like it misses a beat
right then and there. I'm kinda nervous and scared about it.

My hear is fine when I'm excercising hard and doing cardio. Never
chest pains etc. What could the problem be and what can I do
about it? I do have slightly high blood pressure. 152/74.
Could it be because of that? too much water bloat of the dbol?

Please help!!!

[Kale]

So have you had a Dr tell you its Arrythmia ?

[lucidp]

i told my pharmacist about it and he said it could be that.

[Kale]

i told my pharmacist about it and he said it could be that.

Big friging deal, he is a Pharmacist not a Dr. Your BP is high but its not excessive on that kind of cycle. If you are really worried about it go and get it checked by a professional. Nobody here will be able to tell you that it is or is not a heart problem.

[stupidhippo]

yup... agreed! Some arrythmias are really common and benign.. only way u can have a piece of mind is go see a doc, preferably a cardiologist.

[lucidp]

Thanks guys. appreciate the advice.
Will be heading to the doc in an hour.
Hope its nothing serious!

Will post again.

[guns626]

Hey bro, I am a paramedic in medical school. There is a difference in a heart palpitation and an arrythmia, though slight there is a difference. A heart palpitaion is usually a one shot event usually a PVC or premature ventricular contraction or a PAC which is premature atrial contraction. This is where there is a one shot disassociation in the cardiac electrical system. Between the AV and PV nodes. A cardiac arrythmia is a reoccurent or predictable irregularity which can be seen on EKG. IE... runs of pvc or pac, not just one or two. Now my experience with D-bol. I had the same reaction that you are describing. I noticed most when I laid down to go to bed. My heart would beat very irregular and at times would have a beat that was so hard you could see it through my chest. I eventually went to the ER and my BP was quite high. showing significant signs of pulmonary hypertension. I have run most injectables with the exception of tren with this never occuring again. So my conclusion is that I do not need to include d-bol in my cycles. Everyone is going to react a little different to certain steroids . D-bol is the one that the side effects are so unpleasant and dangerous for that matter, that I just need to stay away from. I hope this helped some. Good Luck

[mr amp]

im at hospital on friday ..went 2 the doctors on monday about my heart rate and they have sent me 2 hos 4 tests 4 eregular heart beat and palipatations.mine often occurs wen in bed .it feels like a juddering in my chest and i cant catch my breath and feel dizy and im not even on the gear at the moment...ill post pics ov test results and docs leters on friday so kep an eye out ...

[lucidp]

Guns626
Thanks for that message bro.That really made me feel so much better. I've been thinking it might be the dbols. running at 35mg/day. I'm going to stop completely with them and see what happens. Will be going to get an ekg and exray done tomorrow monrning, so will know more. I appreciate the msg though!

mr Amp.
sorry to hear bud. i seriously hope the results come back good! I know a little how you're feeling bro. Hang in there!!!

Will post when I know more....

[guns626]

No problem. I hope all is well Bro. Peace

[lucidp]

Hi guys,

Went to do x-rays and a ekg test today. Will only be able to see
the doc tomorrow and find out what the results look like. i peeked
at the ekg report though and it mentioned that the overall report
is normal, there was something ele mantioned but can't remember
anymore. Something like variance in beats or something. so doesn't
sound to bad.

Also I've lowered the dose of dbol from 35mg to 15mg/day. i feel
better today. more calm. blood pressure feels like it's down and
my heart feels like it's beating better. So guns626, I believe you
were right. Maybe the irregular heart beat was due to high blood
pressure and other side effects of dbol. thanks again for that info
bud!!

mr amp. how are things on your side?

[Spyder]

I have the same problem except it occurs when i am putting my body through lots of physical stress, happens rarely when i sit still. It got real bad when i was on d-bol, haven't gone to the docs about it yet, will do after my current cycle though. Wish you all the best.

[lucidp]

Thanks Spyder,

when you stopped taking dbol did it go away?
and are you experiening it on your current cycle
at all?

Thanks for the info...

[mr amp]

hope eveythings fine there lucidp..as i said mine occurs wen off a cycle as well..my blood preasure was spot on but like my doc said small palipatations and unnormal heart rate can be caused by stres and worrie and a hole load ov other shit but ive got nout 2 worrie about in them cases so im not 2 worried if it was bad she would ov said so...

[mr amp]

will have 2 start hitting the cardio more and mayb drop dosage a bit

[lucidp]

If the heart muscle is weakened, can it be strenghtened again through
cardio etc.? Is it possible to really get the heart strong and powerfull
again? Any supplements that might help with this?

mr amp. glad you're ok bro! keep an eye on those dosages!

[stupidhippo]

what do you mena by weakening?? That would make no sense unless u have had an infarction or sumin..

[Juddman]

do you use stimulants such as caffeine or ephedrine along with your cycle? i had heart palps in the summer while on a test cycle and i went to get it checked out too..the doc told me i was taking in too much caffeine, i dropped the caffeine and it went away...

good luck bro, keep us posted

[Spyder]

Thanks Spyder,

when you stopped taking dbol did it go away?
and are you experiening it on your current cycle
at all?

Thanks for the info...

Yes it stopped when i finished the dbol, and i am not experiencing it on my current cycle at all.

[vein-x]

So is irregular heart beat a COMMON side-effect of Dbol ? I'm considering running 40-50mg/day on my next Winter Bulker but I don't like the sound of that.

Anyone else experience this?

Oh and Lucid and Mr. Amp... how old are you? Just wondering because it could have something to do with age + high BP.

[lucidp]

Hi vein-x,

I'm 28. in march this year.

Have used dbol before at 20mg/day.
Used 35mg/day this time and experienced the sides.
If it's your first time stick to 20mg/day. You will get
good results with this dose and the side effects should
be minimum.


Juddman: I haven't used any stimulants in this cycle bro.
just aas + protein shake + lotsa eating. but I could see
how caffein and other stimulants could have that effect.

stupidhippo. had a allergic reaction to some medcine i
was given and head a mild heart attack which weakened
my heart. that's why the question.

i intend to to more cardio work to strenghten the sucker.
The heart is mucho important!! Wanna make sure everything
is a-ok!!!

[stupidhippo]

oh shit.. sorry to hear that.. what medicine was that? How bad of an attack? The heart compensates by growing the healthy parts thus making it stronger but the actual infarction area is filled with scartissue... If the area is extent it does weaken and make the heart more susceptible for further complication .

[lucidp]

that's ok bro! it wasn't that bad. it did feel like it was cramping though. Not sure what damage it did. I guess it was more severe for me because I dodn't understand what was happening and panicked.

But i've done cardio and heavy lifting for many years after without any problems. that should mean my heart is healthy right? i halfed my dbol
dosage and it feels like my heart is beating normally again. So that's a
relief. Still waiting for the doc to phone me regarding the x-rays.

[marqui678]

If you use a anti estrogen such as a liquidex, it will help you lose some water and should lower your blood pressure. There could be something wrong with your heart, but lowering your blood pressure should be on the top of your list since, its most likely the main cause.

[lucidp]

Hi guys,

read the report on my x-rays yesterday.
it said my heart is not enlarged, there are no lesions or petusions
or something in that order on my heart. I guess they mean scar
tissue by that!???

I guess that means my heart is in goos shape. I'm taking 20mg dbol
every day now. 1 5mg pill every few hours and my heart is beating
normally and i feel much better as well. Guess it was the dbol after
all. Gave me a real scare i must admit!!!

So there is a lesson to be learned from this, especially for the newbies
around. dbol may cause these kind of side affects. be careful with the
dosage and check your blood pressure. I'm going to be doing continues
blood work with my docrtor as well from now on.

Trust me...it pays to be safe.

[stupidhippo]

good idea... I completely agree with u there, no point in risking ur health.. glad to hear everything was ok.