PCT - My plan good/bad??

**dr_skier** · 02-12-2006, 05:06 PM

Alright i'm messing around with my schedule for coming off here and wrapping up my (what will be) 20ish week cycle. I'm removing my tren /winny/halo/eq all 2 weeks before my last shot of TestE.

The last shot of Test E is april 10th, HCG begins a week before that.

Here is my proposed PCT:

APR3-21
HCG 1500iuEOD - 15000iu total
Nolvadex 40mg/day
Clomid 100mg/day

Apr 21-May5
Nolva 20mg/day
Clomid 50mg/day

Apr3- May5
Arimidex 1mg/ed through hcg, then .5mg/ed post hcg
Clen 100-150mcg/ed 2on2off
Creatine CCE pwo
Possibly Omega’s IGF 40mcg/sub-Q/PWO
Tribulus/macca/zma/
proviron 50mg/ed
***cialis on hand***

-My questions are how does the estrogen suppression levels look? I know I need some estrogen for recovery.
-Will this provide a speedy recovery? -Question about T3, i know it's counter productive for pct, however i'm planning on ramping down so it ends same day as my last shot of test, that ok?
-I've heard people talk about running dnp at low dose 200mg/day through thier pct 3-4 weeks worth talking aobut the anit catabolic properties in addition the the increased calories you can consume. Has anyone tried this?
-Am i missing any herbs/minerals/supps?
-also Feb 20-25 i'm doing hcg 1000iu/ed for 5 days.

I did another cylce with tren last year, all i had for pct was clomid ( i moved, lost my contact for hcg) and boy did I crash HARD, i lost some muscle, a lot of strength and had a ****ed sex drive for 2months following, my gear would work on occasion when it wanted to and when i needed it to the best it could do was fly at half mast. Anyways i want at all costs to avoid that.
Thanks

**stocky121** · 02-12-2006, 05:08 PM

start clomid and nolva 14 day's after last test e shot

**Pinnacle** · 02-12-2006, 05:15 PM

My question to you is,why not run the HCG throughout the entire cycle?

I think April 3-21 500 iu's E3D would suffice

I'd run liquidex all the way through PCT.

I do like the cycle you are running

Halo..winny..tren ...sweet bro

I do think you are trying to reinvent the PCT wheel so to speak...

**dr_skier** · 02-12-2006, 05:35 PM

Hey pinnacle
-got that arimidex the whole way through, just dropped the dose after hcg run from 1mg/ed to .5mg/ed
-i dont quite think the 500iu E3D would work cause of the length and the compounds and the doses used in this cycle, my nuts are raisins, lentils in fact.

-oh yeah this cycle was a blast, 2 shitty times firstly this last week having my gf give me the flu, and the other being a week of being in mexico with no anti-e's and double shooting dosing my long acting esters right before i left. That with the drinking i threw on 10lbs water/fat in 7days lol.

-wow dr_skier 20 week cycle, why so long? Here's why, the idea of gaining muscle and loosing fat cannot be done to the degree of being really effective. ie up 15lbs muscle down 10lbs fat. So i ended up bulking to 275 at 14% and i've been cutting hardcore for a month now and want to cut hardcore for the rest of feb and march. Currently i'm 258, looking for 235-240at 8%

**dr_skier** · 02-12-2006, 05:39 PM

Oh and i'd use hcg during the whole cycle, only living with the folks so i cant really store it in the fridge.

**Pinnacle** · 02-12-2006, 05:39 PM

[Currently i'm 258, looking for 235-240at 8%] How tall are you?

**dr_skier** · 02-12-2006, 05:59 PM

I'm 6'4", here is a pic of me at about 268 on i think jan 30. ( i know no wheels showing, trust me they're there, 5 years of hs football and i was an avid skier before i began lifting)

**Pinnacle** · 02-12-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by dr_skier

I'm 6'4", here is a pic of me at about 268 on i think jan 30. ( i know no wheels showing, trust me they're there, 5 years of hs football and i was an avid skier before i began lifting)

Tall drink a water aren't you?You'll look good at around 235ish bro...good luck

**dr_skier** · 02-12-2006, 06:25 PM

How tall are you pinn? what are your stats? Are you saying i dont look good now? just kiddin bro, yeah 235 would be amazing. Before i started this whole aas business I was 230 14% (fall 2004) and that was down from my alltime high of 325 at probably 40+% (lets just say it was a good day to bench 150lbs - hit that weight fall 2001). I would love to hold 235ish at 7-8% for say 3-4 months and allow my body to get comfortable to that kind of bf%, though I am an endomorph hence this all takes a lot of work (and a moderate amount of drugs