Gyno Twice??

[POSH]

Hey Guys, I am currently on
week 4 of

prop 500wk
dbol 30mg. day
arimidex .5mg day

I got gyno surgery a year ago as many of you know and I have a question.

My surgeon left some "cosmetic gland" in the front of my chest to preserve appearance and removed the rest. There is a little more in the right than left. Now, JUST the cosmetic part of the gland is getting sore, like the onset of gyno. I know it is just the cosmetic gland, because the right hurts more than the left. It isn't "throbbing" like my late gyno was, just sore, like the beginning stages. One of the reason I am taking the arimidex is to protect the cosmetic gland and whatnot. I didn't want to take any second chances.

Has anyone experienced this?
Any advice other than take more or different anti-e's?

Thanks alot for your help.

POSH

[timtim]

friend of a friend got it twice but he was running huge doses so it wasn't a shock. not sure what's up with your situation. why not call your doc?

[tboney]

I agree call your doc. Good luck.

[956Vette]

you can certainly get it again...i have. load up on the anti-e's

[POSH]

you can certainly get it again...i have. load up on the anti-e's

Thanks for the info Vette!

I only have about 10 days left of the dbol , so I think I am going to discontinue this early. That shouldn't be a bad idea, right?

I have upped my arimidex to 1mg. per day and will start nolvadex @ 20mg. per day shortly.

How does all of this sound?

Thanks,

POSH

[956Vette]

sounds like a gameplan

[cmax]

My surgeon left some "cosmetic gland" in the front of my chest to preserve appearance and removed the rest.

Too bad he did not remove the entire gland and then use a pec implant to fill in the empty space and preserve the appearance. This way you would never get gyno again for sure!

I wonder if plastic surgeons actually do that...

[956Vette]

Too bad he did not remove the entire gland and then use a pec implant to fill in the empty space and preserve the appearance. This way you would never get gyno again for sure!

I wonder if plastic surgeons actually do that...

i dont think they like doing that...and i have a feeling it would be a lot more difficult to get insurance to cover that kind of procedure. maybe i can get doc M to comment here

[kaorialfred]

i dont think they like doing that...and i have a feeling it would be a lot more difficult to get insurance to cover that kind of procedure. maybe i can get doc M to comment here

I'm pretty sure that's what happend to me. I made sure that even the insurance company sent him a letter that he would be liable if the whole gland wasn't removed. 50.bucks latter and no problems yet. I had lipo around the chest area also to even things out.

[Bigd0g]

Hey Guys, I am currently on
week 4 of

prop 500wk
dbol 30mg. day
arimidex .5mg day

I got gyno surgery a year ago as many of you know and I have a question.

My surgeon left some "cosmetic gland" in the front of my chest to preserve appearance and removed the rest. There is a little more in the right than left. Now, JUST the cosmetic part of the gland is getting sore, like the onset of gyno. I know it is just the cosmetic gland, because the right hurts more than the left. It isn't "throbbing" like my late gyno was, just sore, like the beginning stages. One of the reason I am taking the arimidex is to protect the cosmetic gland and whatnot. I didn't want to take any second chances.

Has anyone experienced this?
Any advice other than take more or different anti-e's?

Thanks alot for your help.

POSH

Hey posh i had gyno long time ago and had my removed to. My doc told me that you cant get back if you remove the gland. But i still have a little fat in both nipples and thay get sensitive sometimes. I would still recomend to use nolvadex just to bring down the estrogen.

[DEVLDOG]

I had the glands removed..entirely....I keep hearing that this leaves a divit or whatever...this is false info...I have no cosmetic issues with my chest..if you are gonna get the surgery,get it removed.no reason not to.

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I had puberty gyno & removed it on aug 2004 before i started my 1st cycle in september 2004 till now ive done 4 cycles with no problems at all & the doc told me that he removed 1/4 of the gland to prevent the hollow lock under your nips, get some letro bro "femara" it works like charm with this situations i hope that might help.

good luck

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[POSH]

Just wanted to update this thread. Since I last posted, about 2 months ago I have been taking 1mg. of arimidex and 40mg. nolvadex per day, which hasn't helped. Since I ran arimidex all the way through this cycle, I am starting to think maybe it isn't as effective if I just have a fraction of the gland left.
I don't have any build up from the pec, it is like the swollen gland is not attached to my pec, much different from my first gyno experience.
Has this happened to anyone? Is it possible that the AAs has just aggitated my glands and will reduce after PCT?
I talked to a surgeon about totally removing the gland and he said it can't be done because it is needed to provide blood to the nipple, although I have heard of many members getting the gland "completely removed". This doc wasn't some dumbass either, he knows his gyno.
BTW, I will probably be running letro with my pct.

If anyone wants to weigh in on any of this, it would be much appreciated.

[Italian Stallion]

in my experience i found that plastic surgeons are usually halting when it comes to remove the entire mammary gland. They prefer,as they did in my case,to remove the hypertrophyzed-exceeding part of the gland for an aesthetic reason......
i was operated a year ago but i haven't solved my problem 'cause both my nipples are still "watery" so i'll have to endure a further operation in order to achieve a well-designed pec.
I never ran aas so i cannot give you a more specific answer to your question, but i think that sometimes the doctors should come down from their golden chairs and listen a little more to the patients needs.

[farrebarre]

Too bad he did not remove the entire gland and then use a pec implant to fill in the empty space and preserve the appearance. This way you would never get gyno again for sure!

I wonder if plastic surgeons actually do that...

im about to remove my gyno this summer, im gonna ask him to remove EVERYTHING i dont even want anything left for appearance, now how do u guys think it would look like ? badass caved in nips??

[ivrig]

any signs of difference in the nipples are signs of activity from an unwanted hormone. and even if you have removed gyno before, it CAN come again, they don`t remove all the tissue that can develope gyno. So don`t listen to guys who say "oh you are operated? then you will never get it again"!!you have to find out wich component of blockers or AI works best for you!!

[MatrixGuy]

Am having the surgery done in June bro. My plastic surgeon said if i was to run AAS after the surgery then i would just be wasting my money I guess he has a point to a degree. I think i would of run letro through my cycle instead of the arimidex . I wouldn't use letro for PCT. Maybe proviron instead.

[ivrig]

poeple should use nolva if it works for them! cause of the good impact on the blood-fats, it (nolva and clom) works as estrogen in the liver, wich helps your colesterol values!!

[POSH]

Am having the surgery done in June bro. My plastic surgeon said if i was to run AAS after the surgery then i would just be wasting my money I guess he has a point to a degree. I think i would of run letro through my cycle instead of the arimidex. I wouldn't use letro for PCT. Maybe proviron instead.

I am going to use the pheebo's pct. I guess I could run letro AFTER pct, would that be alright?

[MatrixGuy]

I am going to use the pheebo's pct. I guess I could run letro AFTER pct, would that be alright?

That would be fine IMO. Just remember to run nolva for 2 weeks after finishing the letro.

[kaorialfred]

I would have to post some picts as well but I was assured I would never get it again.

[DEVLDOG]

any signs of difference in the nipples are signs of activity from an unwanted hormone. and even if you have removed gyno before, it CAN come again, they don`t remove all the tissue that can develope gyno. So don`t listen to guys who say "oh you are operated? then you will never get it again"!!you have to find out wich component of blockers or AI works best for you!!

again...if the gland is removed you can in no way shape or form get it again.no gland = no gyno.

and as far as the gland needed to get blood to the nipple,i thought thats what veins were for.my glands are removed,trust me.i have no issues with my nipples and anybody who knows me knows i gave it every chance to come back with the high doses i run 4-5g week and nothing,not even an itch.so before you post nonsense about what guys who had surgery say I say you dont know shit so dont say anything.

[farrebarre]

again...if the gland is removed you can in no way shape or form get it again.no gland = no gyno.

and as far as the gland needed to get blood to the nipple,i thought thats what veins were for.my glands are removed,trust me.i have no issues with my nipples and anybody who knows me knows i gave it every chance to come back with the high doses i run 4-5g week and nothing,not even an itch.so before you post nonsense about what guys who had surgery say I say you dont know shit so dont say anything.

did u tell them to remove every piece of it? or did they leave something so u wont get that "caved in look"?

[MatrixGuy]

again...if the gland is removed you can in no way shape or form get it again.no gland = no gyno.

and as far as the gland needed to get blood to the nipple,i thought thats what veins were for.my glands are removed,trust me.i have no issues with my nipples and anybody who knows me knows i gave it every chance to come back with the high doses i run 4-5g week and nothing,not even an itch.so before you post nonsense about what guys who had surgery say I say you dont know shit so dont say anything.

Interesting. Did you run any AI while running those doses bro?

[DEVLDOG]

did u tell them to remove every piece of it? or did they leave something so u wont get that "caved in look"?

he removed it all bro,he asked me first and told me there was a chance that it may look concaved at the nipple.i took my chances and it looks fine,theres no indent or anything.the reason i said take it all is I would much rather deal with the "CHANCE" of an indent then continue to have bitch tits or ever get them back...for me,it worked out.

[DEVLDOG]

Interesting. Did you run any AI while running those doses bro?

none,i never cared much for ANTI ESTROGENS,there over rated.

[farrebarre]

he removed it all bro,he asked me first and told me there was a chance that it may look concaved at the nipple.i took my chances and it looks fine,theres no indent or anything.the reason i said take it all is I would much rather deal with the "CHANCE" of an indent then continue to have bitch tits or ever get them back...for me,it worked out.

aha cool cool, gonna have mine removed this summer whii,
after the surgery with ur high doses did u have a high bf%?
i read that aromatization occurs in the fat so low bf%=less gyno right?
but if u have it all removed and higher bf% does that mean u can still get gyno coz of aromatization ?..

[DEVLDOG]

aha cool cool, gonna have mine removed this summer whii,
after the surgery with ur high doses did u have a high bf%?
i read that aromatization occurs in the fat so low bf%=less gyno right?
but if u have it all removed and higher bf% does that mean u can still get gyno coz of aromatization ?..

when i had the surgery i was at 12%bf at 280lbs...now im 292 .im still at 12%

[MatrixGuy]

he removed it all bro,he asked me first and told me there was a chance that it may look concaved at the nipple.i took my chances and it looks fine,theres no indent or anything.the reason i said take it all is I would much rather deal with the "CHANCE" of an indent then continue to have bitch tits or ever get them back...for me,it worked out.

My plastic surgeon never asked me that. Am hoping he takes all the gland out. I would like to take my chances too.

[kaorialfred]

My plastic surgeon never asked me that. Am hoping he takes all the gland out. I would like to take my chances too.

I had asked my Dr. specifics and he said he has done both, so we had it all removed becuase he kne I was going to be on test therapy and there could be a chance of relapse. He also did lip around the area, kinda sculpted but I still need to get my body fat down to see how well it looks.