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    Question cycle advice please advise...

    i tried posting on the over 30 forum but got no replies...

    test-e 250 twice a week
    eq 200mg twice a week
    winni last 6 weeks ed
    nolva throughout

    stats:42yr/5'6"/167lbs
    also what would be good pct for my age besides the continuation of the nolva? i have l-dex and clomid

    grateful

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    Is this your first cycle? If not what were your previous ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c8rsa
    Is this your first cycle? If not what were your previous ones?
    This would be the first question to answer. The answer to this may change a few things...........

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    how long have you been training would be the second queistion!!

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    this is my 4th cycle, mostly test-e/tren /winni/eq combos (not all at same time)
    training for about 3 (serious)

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    You seem to have done quite a few things so why not bump up the doses? Unless you have seen good progress so far at your previous doses I'd up the test and EQ and finish strong with the Winny.

    How long are you looking to run this for? We'll get something set up for you.....

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    10 weeks, although i was debating 12 weeks.
    thanks for the help bros
    Last edited by kuad; 02-13-2006 at 12:16 PM.

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    Considering the proposed compounds and cycling experience this is what I would do if I were you.

    Weeks 1-?------------> ?
    Weeks 1-12----------->Test E 750mgs
    Weeks 1-11----------->EQ 600mgs
    Weeks 9-14----------->Winny 50mgs ED

    I'm not completely sure of your goal so failed to fill in the question marked area. I'd like to see some prop on there but if you're loking for some mass then you could jumpstart it with some D-bol.

    At the age of 42 I dont really seeing you wanting to get huge off this but I cant assume. I'll let you answer that then we can fill in the blanks and set up proper PCT...........

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    i am mainly wanted to build just a little(i am 5'6") and really cut up. in addition to the test-e, eq and winni i have access to primobolan depot,nandrolone d. and propiomast 200.

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    and test-p

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    input on first cycle please

    I first want to say,i really appeaciate you guy`s being here to help.I will take Booz`s advice and give you as much info as possible.My first cycle was deca dur.400 ew 10 wks.i came across this site in my 9-10 wk and quicky learned you never do deca alone.As far as deca dick goes,its taking me a long time to finish,it`s been 2 wks from my last shot.i did not have a pct plan,stupid i know.I went to see Doc and played stupid guy smart guy,i had bw taken today.He did mention if my t levels are low he would give me a mild dosage of test,if they are not,what and when should i start my pct?my stats are 36 yr. 5 10 been working out since my early 20s on and off,steady for 3 now,iam a true hard gainer,i alway`s mantianed a lean ripped look,it was easy for me to do.befor cycle i was 159 7% df,now 172 7 % bf,it may not seem alot..but to me it is.My diet was about 3000 cals,should have been at least 4000+,im very anal about what i eat,did not want to gain ant fat.food came from fish,chix,lean beef,tuna,eggs,complex carbs,simple befor & after work out`s and proten shake`s,you get the idea....any input please...my question is, if my t level`s are nornal,should i start novla when & how much? im sorry for such a long thread, any help please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuad
    and test-p
    Perfect!!! Here she is


    Weeks 1-3------------>Test P 100mgs EOD
    Weeks 1-12----------->Test E 750mgs
    Weeks 1-11----------->EQ 600mgs
    Weeks 9-14----------->Winny 50mgs ED

    PCT will start the day after your last Winny shot. Take 100mgs of clomid for 10 days then 50mgs for 10 days. Nolvadex 20mgs ED til the end of the cloimd or until sex drive is back in full swing.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    Perfect!!! Here she is


    Weeks 1-3------------>Test P 100mgs EOD
    Weeks 1-12----------->Test E 750mgs
    Weeks 1-11----------->EQ 600mgs
    Weeks 9-14----------->Winny 50mgs ED

    PCT will start the day after your last Winny shot. Take 100mgs of clomid for 10 days then 50mgs for 10 days. Nolvadex 20mgs ED til the end of the cloimd or until sex drive is back in full swing.................
    Why not run the Prop till weeks 4-7 when the Test Enan begins to kick in fully?

    Bloodwork needs to be done pre/post cycle to see if your body is fit for a cycle and to see how recovery went.

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    i am calling the doctor tomorrow to schedule some bloodwork. what tests should i ask for and how should i use results to plan the cycle?

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    what blood test results would determine if my body was not fit for it?

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    anyone?

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    Test for the following:

    ENDOCRINOLOGY
    Testosterone



    LIVER FUNCTION TESTS
    Albumin
    Globulin
    Total Protein
    Bilirubin
    Gamma GT
    Alk****e Phosphatase
    Aspartate Transferase (AST)
    Alanine Transferase (ALT)

    LIPID PROFILE
    Triglycerides
    Total Cholesterol
    LDL Cholesterol
    HDL Cholesterol
    HDL/Cholesterol Ratio

    KIDNEY FUNCTION
    Urea
    Creatinine

    FULL BLOOD COUNT
    RED CELL COUNT
    Haemoglobin
    Haematocrit (HCT)
    Red Cell Count
    Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW)
    Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)
    Mean Corpuscular Haemoglobin (MCH)
    Mean Corpuscular Haemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)
    DIFFERENTIAL WHITE CELL COUNT
    White Cell Count
    Neutrophils
    Lymphocytes
    Monocytes
    Eosinophils
    Basophils
    Platelet Count
    ESR

    ELECTROLYTES
    Sodium
    Potassium
    Chloride
    Bicarbonate
    Uric Acid

    MUSCLE ENZYME
    Creatine Kinase


    MINERALS
    Calcium
    Phosphate


    IRON STATUS PROFILE
    Iron
    Total Iron Binding Capacity

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    my last three cycles i did not have any bloodwork done, what adverse effects can this have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuad
    my last three cycles i did not have any bloodwork done, what adverse effects can this have?
    No one can answer this. Only bloodwork, before and after can answer that question. But, it wasnt done, so...

    I get bloodwork done whilst "on" (about half way through), 3-4 weeks following PCT (to see how successfull my PCT protocol was) and finally 1-2 weeks before going on, to see if my body can handle another cycle and determine if/when to do another cycle.

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    what numbers would ellict one to hold off on cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuad
    what numbers would ellict one to hold off on cycle?
    I'm no doctor, sorry.

    Speak with you doctor and go through the results with him/her. This is what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Why not run the Prop till weeks 4-7 when the Test Enan begins to kick in fully?
    I prefer the Prop 3-4 weeks from the beginning for the obvious reasons. Once the enathate esters have kicked in at weeks 3-4 I'd drop the Prop and let the Test E take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    I prefer the Prop 3-4 weeks from the beginning for the obvious reasons. Once the enathate esters have kicked in at weeks 3-4 I'd drop the Prop and let the Test E take over.
    I'm a late starter with Test Enan, it doesnt kick in fully till weeks 6-8, so Prop could be used until this time.

    If you feel the Test Enan kick in before this time, use it as Jay stated.

    Jay: You've just signed on and your reading all the responses from your posts. I do the same, get a bit excitted I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Jay: You've just signed on and your reading all the responses from your posts. I do the same, get a bit excitted I do.

    You know what it is Swift. I'm in between classes so I go to the posts that I'm waiting responses too, I dont have much time right now. I never like to leave a thread without closure. Either that or when I just feel like it's been beaten to death.

    I"m off to class, help these guys out brotha!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    You know what it is Swift. I'm in between classes so I go to the posts that I'm waiting responses too, I dont have much time right now. I never like to leave a thread without closure. Either that or when I just feel like it's been beaten to death.

    I"m off to class, help these guys out brotha!!!!!
    Of course.

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    you mean tell the doctor i am planning a cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuad
    you mean tell the doctor i am planning a cycle?
    My doctor knows everything. What I'm running and for how long. Telling him what your about to embark on is upto you.

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    one more stupid question at my age what would be the consequences of embarking on another cycle without bloodwork?
    btw, thanks for your help
    peace!

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    I cant forsee any major problems.

    Get some bloowork done to be sure, its the safest way possible IMHO.

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    i was able to make an appt. for this monday, i will ask to have full bloodwork done and hopefully start my cycle after that.

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    i was thinking of adding d-bol to this cycle, any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuad
    i was thinking of adding d-bol to this cycle, any advice?
    PM sent back.............

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