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    Switch to prop the last 2-3 week?

    I was thinking if I should use prop the last 2-3 weeks instead of cyp, what would be the desired amount to take eod? I am currently running 500mg cyp ew and 400mg deca . What would be best, and also 2 or 3 weeks?

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    Why would you want to do this? Personally I would stick with the cyp all the way to the end. Yeah prop is a faster acting ester, but test is test man. Dont worry and just carry out the test cyp.

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    honestly i think switching to a short acting ester is good towards the end of your cycle cause that way you can start your clomid sooner since the test is out of your body faster, helping you to keep more of your gains.

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    ahhh, I see. thanx tren bull. wasnt sure on that, I understand that now seeing how you dont have to wait 2 weeks to start PCT. Good advice.

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    thats what im doing but sept i started loving the prop then decide to carry on cycle for another 8 weeks

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    So how long is your cycle?

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    run the prop 3 weeks then 3 days after last shot start your pct...

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    Hmmm, ive heard 1-2 days for starting PCT. Anyone else hear this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks
    Hmmm, ive heard 1-2 days for starting PCT. Anyone else hear this?
    you mean after finishing prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    you mean after finishing prop?

    yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinTin78
    I was thinking if I should use prop the last 2-3 weeks instead of cyp, what would be the desired amount to take eod? I am currently running 500mg cyp ew and 400mg deca. What would be best, and also 2 or 3 weeks?
    I prefer ED shots of prop. Just keep it the same as your cyp, around 500mg. No real need to increase or decrease.

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    Anyone else on when to start PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks
    Anyone else on when to start PCT?

    after finishing prop, i like to wait about 5-6 days (as long as im running clenbuterol ) before starting the clomid. when finishing a long lasting ester like enanthate , i like to wait about 3 weeks until i start the clomid (again, as long as i am running clen )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    after finishing prop, i like to wait about 5-6 days (as long as im running clenbuterol) before starting the clomid. when finishing a long lasting ester like enanthate, i like to wait about 3 weeks until i start the clomid (again, as long as i am running clen)

    And if you are not running clen ? I wait only 2 weeks after I finished Enanthate . FINE be DIFFICULT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks
    And if you are not running clen ? I wait only 2 weeks after I finished Enanthate . FINE be DIFFICULT!

    bro, clen is the way to go. why sacrafice any gains?

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    clen is a necesity. i always run it during pct

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    ok, thank's for all help then, I will order 3 bottles of 10ml each and they are 75mg/ml then it is spot on, should I order one extra?

    I am not gonna use anything else for pct than Nolva, and I am on hcg now and up until the end of the cycle. I have heard to many sides on clomid, but I have it on hand if I have to.

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    Also, what dosage of clen should I run during pct to maintain muscle? I have one bottle from ARR's punh flavour.

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    Yeah, i know clen is a nessecity to retain gains as much as possible during your PCT. And the Nolva only PCT with HCG is fine. True clomid has many sides that suck ASS.

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    I would start at 20mcg progressions. like 20 the first day, 40 the second day, 60 the third. etc... It basically all depends on your body's reaction to the side effects. If you are not feeling any sides the keep bumping it up. I wouldnt go past 180mcgs though. Even so,thats pretty high for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinTin78
    Also, what dosage of clen should I run during pct to maintain muscle? I have one bottle from ARR's punh flavour.

    clen doses can be complicated. the way to go is 30 mcgs the first day, 60 mcgs the second day, 90 mcgs the third day, then 125 mcgs the fourth day, then stay at 125 mcgs ed for the duration, of about 2 months
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    Ok, but how soon after pct could one start to cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks
    I wouldnt go past 180mcgs though. Even so,thats pretty high for me.

    thats for sure. i keep it at 125 mcgs ed max

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinTin78
    Ok, but how soon after pct could one start to cut?
    i start it the day after my last shot

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    ok, thx man, I will do the clen and get some prop to have for the last 3 weeks.

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    hey tintin ,how was that cycle in regards to hairloss ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinTin78
    I was thinking if I should use prop the last 2-3 weeks instead of cyp, what would be the desired amount to take eod? I am currently running 500mg cyp ew and 400mg deca. What would be best, and also 2 or 3 weeks?

    if i'am using a long ester i alway's switch to prop during the end of my cycle make's going into PCT mush easyer

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