Next cycle - VAR PRIMO TEST - Help

[MAXIMA5]

After much research, I feel this is a good cycle for me. I would appreciate input on doses, etc..

I am 6'1 245 lbs 17% bodyfat. Mainly looking for lean mass while continuing fat loss. I have been losing bodyfat steadily over last 6 months, and want to get down to 12% eventually. Diet is in check- 6 morning liting/cardio sessions per week.
10 weeks
Primo - 600 mg EW W (need help with injection schedule and doses)
Test En or Cyp - 500-600 mg EW (I was planning on M and TH injections)
Anavar - 50-60 mg ED
Letro - Weeks 9-12


Please let me know what you think.

Which test would you recommend and why? I want to limit test injections, so I decided to go with En or Cyp.

[SPIKE]

After much research, I feel this is a good cycle for me. I would appreciate input on doses, etc..

I am 6'1 245 lbs 17% bodyfat. Mainly looking for lean mass while continuing fat loss. I have been losing bodyfat steadily over last 6 months, and want to get down to 12% eventually. Diet is in check- 6 morning liting/cardio sessions per week.
10 weeks
Prop - 600 mg EW W (need help with injection schedule and doses)
Test En or Cyp - 500-600 mg EW (I was planning on M and TH injections)
Anavar - 50-60 mg ED
Letro - Weeks 9-12

***Did you mean to write Primo here not prop?

At 17% BF I dont see much use for Primo. Primo is a GREAT drug (yes I said Great) for certain goals. The lower the BF one has the more you will be able to see Primo's capabilities. I'd get down to your goals BF percentage before even thinking about taking Primo. I know of many more compounds that will aid in LBM rather then Primo with your Body comp. Just b/c I love Primo doesnt mean I will recommend it to all. In your case I'd put it on the back burner until you reach your goals BF% then take it.

You're looking for LBM with a decrease in BF%, which is tough. Reason being is that there are 2 different routes to take for each one. I wont go into the details as I"ll be typing forever here, but you get my drift.

I know you said you want to get down to 12%, is the your ultimate goal? If so then concentrate more on losing some BF while slowly increasing LBM. Then when you get down to your goal you can turn more towards AAS to aid in some quality muscle mass.

Hope some of this helps...........

[MAXIMA5]

Jay,

Makes sense. Would adding test alone to the anavar be good way to maintain/gain lean mass while dropping bodyfat, or would the test puff me up too much? My workouts have been plateauing on my upper body lifts with the Anavar alone (could be from hitting bench, incline, and decline hard twice a week, which I think is overkill, but my lifting partner seems hell bent on this workout since he recovers quickly).

You just saved me some serious $ that I can save for the Primo when I'm below 12% bf. I was worried it may not work well for me right now, which is why I thought i'd post this thread.

Test, or no test? and if so, E or C?

[SPIKE]

Test, or no test? and if so, E or C?

Sicne you're worried about water retention Test E and C may have an effect on that, more so then not. I for one dont hold too much water but you may hold a ton. If you decide to go with the longer ester you can easily run an AI alongside it to combat water weight. Here is a good thread on that:

Short ester test .vs. Long Ester for cutting

[MAXIMA5]

I read that thread, very informative.

Will Letro alone be sufficient if I choose to go with an ester?

[Spyder]

Wheres Pinn, he knows everything about PRIMO

[MAXIMA5]

Wheres Pinn, he knows everything about PRIMO

Yeah, I've read his Primo posts. Jay said I'm too fat to do Primo. I'm going to go cry myself to sleep.

[SPIKE]

Jay said I'm too fat to do Primo.

Noooooooooooooo not at all brotha. Just think that there are other compounds out there better suited for your goal.........

[MAXIMA5]

Noooooooooooooo not at all brotha. Just think that there are other compounds out there better suited for your goal.........

lol

I'm open to suggestions. I was thinking about sticking withe the var and adding enought Testex Test Cyp each week to accelerate muscle growth/recovery without packing on too much extra weight. Again, I don;t care if I gain weight as long as my bf% keeps dropping.
I'll have aromasin and letro to counteract bloat.
Can you please recommend a cycle based around these compounds with my goals in mind? I went with the testex so I can space out injections. Im leaving on vacation in Mid April and wanted to be able to shoot the day of departure so my levels wont drop too much by the time we get back.

[SPIKE]

I'll have aromasin and letro to counteract bloat.

You'll only need 1 not both...........

Can you please recommend a cycle based around these compounds with my goals in mind?

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[MAXIMA5]

Thanks Jay,

Always great advice

[omnipotent]

try sust for the test or test suspension if your willing to do lots of injections

[SPIKE]

try sust for the test or test suspension if your willing to do lots of injections

Which test would you recommend and why? I want to limit test injections, so I decided to go with En or Cyp.

Guess that answers that.........

[omnipotent]

being a human pin cushion isnt that bad