What would you do???? Test, Tbol, Var

[BlackStang]

I have time to do one Test E cycle or two Tbol cycles. First Tbol cycle would just consist of Tbol alone, stated below, and second would have Var added in. I have done a Var/Primo cycle before with pretty good results. I'm not scared of needles so don't think thats why I have the oral cycle. I would like to gain a solid 20lb or so by the time everything is finished.

#1

1-10 400-500mg Test E
20mg Nolva ED
25mg Proviron ED (Maybe)

Followed by PCT 2 weeks after last injection

or

#2

1-4 40-60mg/ed Tbol

Maybe run the Tbol for 6 weeks

Followed by PCT day after last pill


I would do the first Tbol cycle at 40mg/ed to see how I react then I would bump up the dose to 60mg/ed for the second cycle and add in Var around 30-40mg/ed. Heard its supposed to be a great stack.


Price is not the issue I just want to have the cycles completed, which ever I choose, before summer.



Let me know what you think!




Thanks

[hosam4ever]

is this gonna b ur first cycle

[notanormalgent]

Why not just run all of them?

I would love to do:
test 1-12
tbol 1-6
var 7-12....ohhhh baby...

[Mr. IncreD-bol]

How many cycles have you done? What were they?

[BlackStang]

I have never ran a test cycle yet so I would probably run it by it self, but all 3 definatly sounds good.

Only a Var cycle and a Var/Primo. Nothing special really.



Thanks for the quick responces.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I have never ran a test cycle yet so I would probably run it by it self, but all 3 definatly sounds good.

Only a Var cycle and a Var/Primo. Nothing special really.



Thanks for the quick responces.

Whats your goals?

Test is going to give you far more gains than tbol in overall size and mass.

Tbol is great tool if you train real hard with it's strength gains and LBM. (not much size, but all muscle)



Did you like var? what dose did you run it at for how long? Fat drop , increase muscle?

I was considering doing this in the past.

[D7M]

Why not just run all of them?

I would love to do:
test 1-12
tbol 1-6
var 7-12....ohhhh baby...

that's what I was gonna say!

[BlackStang]

Well I want to put on size so I guess I should go for the test.

I thought the var was great. I ran it for 6 weeks at 40mg/ed. Great pumps and strenght gains. I also managed to gain a total of 10lb. Hardened up my muscles and gave that hard defined look. I would definatly run it again but would probably do 60mg/ed atleast. Only thing I didn't like was the price,





Any other suggestions?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Well I want to put on size so I guess I should go for the test.

I thought the var was great. I ran it for 6 weeks at 40mg/ed. Great pumps and strenght gains. I also managed to gain a total of 10lb. Hardened up my muscles and gave that hard defined look. I would definatly run it again but would probably do 60mg/ed atleast. Only thing I didn't like was the price,





Any other suggestions?

Thanks for the info.

I'm going to run var 8 weeks at 40mgs. 10lbs!!! wow!!!

Are you running test alone? Like others said, you can run t-bol with it, but watch your blood pressure as both can increase it.

[BlackStang]

40mg/ed i think is good to start with and if you dont notice much slowly increase the dosage. I know some people say you have to run it upwards of 60mg+ to see the full effect but I loved it i'm sure you will too.


Well if I do go with the test cycle I might use something to kickstart but since its the first time using test I might do it alone. Not to sure if I could handle the first couple weeks without seeing any results though, get anxious.




Thanks and good luck!

[marcus300]

I would do the test cycle only, test will give you all the gains you require so long as your diet is in order, 500mg per wk for 10-12 wk, eat train and grow

[BROTHERHOOD]

Man theres so much mixed feelings on Var on a bulk. As soon as I get ready to get some I read about how you won't gain weight on it. So I rule it out and now I read about a 10 pound gain.

[chinups]

Test hands down!

I mean this is if it was you, if it was me I am afraid of test because of hairline but test by far will give you the best results and best bang for your buck

[Hellmaskbanned]

Man theres so much mixed feelings on Var on a bulk. As soon as I get ready to get some I read about how you won't gain weight on it. So I rule it out and now I read about a 10 pound gain.

nICE avATAR!



Now what are we talking about again?


Test for overall mass! stang you'll reach your 20lb goal fo sho.
T-bol not 20lbs , but less sides + All LBM no water gains.

[BlackStang]

Brotherhood - When I was doing research on it I found mixed results also. Some guys only gained a couple pounds while loosing fat and I have heard gains up to 20lb on var alone. So basically it could go either way and the only way to find out is doing a cycle. I was also on a bulking diet at the time.

Very nice avatar, dammmmmmn my kind of woman.


chinups - is the hairline the only reason why you are scared of test? Since you dont do test what kind of cycles do you run? Any suggestions on something else besides test that would yeild pretty high gains?


Hellmask - I do not want lots of sides which is why I considerd the Tbol. If I gained 10lb on var and since tbol is supposed to put on more mass I should be able to gain atleast 10lb a cycle, that is if my diet, routine, etc. is bang on. I know Cmore gained 15lb on a tbol alone cycle. Oral only is more of a pain though. I get sick of taking all those pills everyday.

[BlackStang]

bump any other suggestions???





Thanks