PLEASE HELP me salvage this cycle

**Da_Mayor** · 03-02-2006, 07:09 PM

Now before you guys all criticize me I did do research on this cycle and I went against what you guys said because Im a thickheaded mofo and I started the cycle with what I had available but now I definitely need to throw in either prop or enanthate . Now I started takin winny(50 mg ed) alone 2 1/2 weeks ago. Then I saw all these posts on here about how bad winny is alone. I had test susp and deca so i decided to throw that into the mix as well. So a week 1/2 ago i began runnin that at about 600 mg/wk of test susp and about 500 mg of deca ( so far i got about 1000 mg of test and deca in me) but i was only gonna run the susp and deca for 4 weeks and the winny for 6 weeks. So a couple guys recently strongly advised me against this and said I definitely need to throw in either enanthate or cypionate or prop and run it for 12 weeks and run the deca for 10 weeks. The question is which one of the tests should i run with it and at what doses and should i lower the dosage of susp to make it last longer and should i run the winnie for an extra 2 weeks making it eight weeks total?

**roydrage** · 03-03-2006, 07:52 AM

bro you got some jumbled up shit there hahah. i would run enanthate deca and winny if it was me. but i would save the winny for the last remaining weeks of my cycle plus 2. another words. if you have 4 weeks of winny available run the test deca for 8 weeks then add the winny in with them for the remaining 2 and run the winny for 2 weeks after the test and deca are finished. you could also run test prop for 6 weeks with deca for 10 weeks and the last 4 weeks after the prop is gone through in the winny. winny hardens you up good for the end of a test cycle imo

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 07:58 AM

1. test is test....If you do not mind the frequent injects that come along with susp. you can stay with it.

2. I would never run deca and winny in the same cycle. Winny may hrden you...but you will never know it with all the bloat from the deca. Are you cutting or bulking?

3. lay out your stats, goals, and experience for more help.

**damiongage** · 03-03-2006, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by roydrage

bro you got some jumbled up shit there hahah. i would run enanthate deca and winny if it was me. but i would save the winny for the last remaining weeks of my cycle plus 2. another words. if you have 4 weeks of winny available run the test deca for 8 weeks then add the winny in with them for the remaining 2 and run the winny for 2 weeks after the test and deca are finished. you could also run test prop for 6 weeks with deca for 10 weeks and the last 4 weeks after the prop is gone through in the winny. winny hardens you up good for the end of a test cycle imo

Are you speaking from experience?

never run deca past test...especially prop. The exact oppisite really. Run the prop 4 weeks past the deac....

**muscle_20** · 03-03-2006, 08:51 AM

you ran 600mg suspension per week??!how does that work?did you take a shot 6 days out of the week or something or was your suspension dosed differently to 100mg?thats a mad amount of test to be taking what were your sides like?
i would simply run 500mg test-e for 12 weekswith 400mg deca for 10 weeks,you should have safed suspension for last two weeks so you could jump straight onto pct the day after last shot while now if you use test-e your gona have to wait 10 days after last shot to begin pct.
whats the point in using winstrol are you cutting or bulking?!

**SS1476** · 03-03-2006, 10:01 AM

If it were me... I would run
just the test,and run winny
towards the end.

Save the Deca for a later
bulker...just my thought.

**roydrage** · 03-05-2006, 03:05 PM

yes i was speaking from experience. if your going to take a hardener like winny run it after the test is gone or after the cycle completly not during.