keep gains?

**brutesinme** · 03-04-2006, 08:25 PM

I am about to start a cyp cycle, and am being advised by a friend that i'll either want to add deca or winny in order to keep a greater proportion of my gains. How much truth is there to this?

**AllGearedUp** · 03-04-2006, 08:42 PM

Id say it was BS. Im no pro by any means but, to my knowledge its all in your PCT, and keeping your diet and workout routine going strong.

**velvetlion** · 03-04-2006, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by AllGearedUp

Id say it was BS. Im no pro by any means but, to my knowledge its all in your PCT, and keeping your diet and workout routine going strong.

Allgearedup is right. The best way to keep gains is to run your pct and still keep a strict diet after your cycle. Keep those calories up, the new muscle will need them. There isn't any real majic behind this. It still takes hard work and dedication.

**brutesinme** · 03-05-2006, 12:02 AM

Thanks. These guys are big, but they look confused when i ask them questions about AI's, it's nice to have a board like this to get info on

**AllGearedUp** · 03-05-2006, 01:01 AM

Well your smart for seeking alternative views. Im sure 95% of the people here would agree with me. Not tooting my own horn. Just a fact.

**goalseeker** · 03-05-2006, 02:08 AM

yeah, it is a fact bro.....

**midwest maniac** · 03-05-2006, 03:02 AM

Im in my 6 week of test cyp only and im very happy(about 25 lbs so far) for me its been all about my diet and workouts and sleep...

**hosam4ever** · 03-05-2006, 06:03 AM

if this is ur 1st cycle then test is enough for u

**dabigcheese** · 03-05-2006, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by brutesinme

I am about to start a cyp cycle, and am being advised by a friend that i'll either want to add deca or winny in order to keep a greater proportion of my gains. How much truth is there to this?

Gains from Winny and Deca are definitely more keepable than gains from D-Bol or Anadrol (take in isolation). No argument there. But without good PCT, you will lose muscle mass. The key is to try to retain as much as possible with minimal loss.

**dabigcheese** · 03-05-2006, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by midwest maniac

Im in my 6 week of test cyp only and im very happy(about 25 lbs so far) for me its been all about my diet and workouts and sleep...

What was your height/weight/body fat ratio at the start of your cycle?

**nate3422** · 03-05-2006, 12:34 PM

i would also say it is bs

**muscle_20** · 03-05-2006, 12:40 PM

not true.....gains are gains(you dont count water as a gain,water weight is a big part of the gain on drugs such as anadrol so you simply take into account of the water weight and whats left is real gains).
pct is what determines how keepable your gains are.(water is unkeepable...but who cares its not real muscle any way!)

**neverenuff21** · 03-05-2006, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by dabigcheese

Gains from Winny and Deca are definitely more keepable than gains from D-Bol or Anadrol (take in isolation). No argument there. But without good PCT, you will lose muscle mass. The key is to try to retain as much as possible with minimal loss.

he speaks with wisdom, listen up!

**marcus300** · 03-05-2006, 12:56 PM

Gains are kept by good pct and diet, the new muscle tissue what you build on a course as to be maintained with the required amount of protien/calories then all new muscle gains will be kept, diet is no 1 for keeping gains

**dabigcheese** · 03-05-2006, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by muscle_20

not true.....gains are gains(you dont count water as a gain,water weight is a big part of the gain on drugs such as anadrol so you simply take into account of the water weight and whats left is real gains).
pct is what determines how keepable your gains are.(water is unkeepable...but who cares its not real muscle any way!)

Ok. I guess if you are not going only by how much the scale has moved then that's possibly right.

Here's a steroid effectiveness chart from this site:

http://www.steroid.com/effect.php