Clenbuterol, Caffeine, and chest pains

[ascendant]

Well, I don't know if it's just that I don't drink caffeine much, but I'm very sensitive to it. Not sure why, but if I take too much of something with caffiene in it, it can give me chest pains. Has only happened 3 times, but freaks me out cause though I know it's not a heart attack, both me and a doctor i had seen during one of the issues aren't sure exactly what it is. I know other people have complained about chest pains from too much caffeine, but again, I haven't found out exactly why it can. If anyone knows and can let me in on it and if it's a serious concern or not, please let me know and I'd appreciate it. Anyway, onto my main question...

Waiting for some clen . right now, and I know it's a cns stimulant just as caffiene is. now, i am planning on starting off on this stuff nice and slow and gradually working my way up, but would anyone know that since I'm so sensitive to caffiene if I might have the same issue with clen. and if so, is this something that could potentially cause serious heart problems? problem is that by the time i take too much caffeine and start having the chest pains it's already too late to do anything but deal with them for the next few hours. saying as clens. half-life is 36 hours, if this is something that could be causing serious problems that might be more than my system can handle. if anyone could give me any feedback on this i'd greatly appreciate it.

thanks,
AC

[muscle_20]

look man many people have died from clen for a start.
i feel weird on clen but i can take caffine till the cows come home and feel fine.i would get a specialist to find out why your having this problem with caffine,some one will be able to find out why this is.
as far as clen goes dont touch it until you find out whats what with your heart because caffine and clen are a whole different animal when it comes to strenght!

[DEVLDOG]

why even entertain the thought if you even think you will have problems...clen isnt all that bro.its definately not worth a trip to the ER

[BigChris]

Clen is known for giving heart and chest pains...especially over long-term usage.

The unfortunate reality is that clen carries the potential to enlarge your heart (not the muscles but because of collagen build-up)...so the vote is out if it is really a safe drug to consume.

But then, what is REALLY safe to use, water?

[DEVLDOG]

Clen is known for giving heart and chest pains...especially over long-term usage.

The unfortunate reality is that clen carries the potential to enlarge your heart (not the muscles but because of collagen build-up)...so the vote is out if it is really a safe drug to consume.

But then, what is REALLY safe to use, water?

water isnt safe either...FLORIDE causes CANCER in lab rats

[ascendant]

people have really died from clen , even on the regular doses in short term use? from what I heard, the cynomel (cytomel ?) was the dangerous one to avoid, but the clen was much safer as long as the doses were slowly raised and the limits kept at 120mcg/day or below? I wasn't planning on going higher than 100mcg at any point during my clen useage, but now I'm a little unsure if I'll be using it at all. the reason i wasn't that concerned is that during one of those times when i was having the chest pains from too much caffiene and the doctor had checked me out, she did an ekg on me and said everything checked out fine with my heart and she didn't seem to have much of a concern about it. anyway, if the two week two days on, two days off cycle where you build up gradually on this stuff really is that dangerous i might avoid this stuff altogether and just sell it off to a friend. i just never heard of this stuff killing people. if anyone can give a little more info as to how risky this stuff really is i'd appreciate it. thanks.
AC

[SS1476]

It needs to be respected
just like anything else. I had
great results from clen , but
taking the time to read up
will only ease your mind.
Theres many great threads
on clen here for review.
If I were you, i wouldnt, just
my opinion. good luck

[majorpecs]

I have a 22 year old friend with no prior heart conditions or defects and he had a major heart attack while taking very normal amounts of clen and t3, and this was within the first week of his taking the drugs. Think twice my friend.

[Ufa]

Don't monkey around with FAT Burners. Do cardio or wire your mouth shut.

[ascendant]

well, did a bunch of research, and seems many people are torn on how "safe" clen . is. then again, like many of you stated, what really is safe for us? i think in controlled and reasonable doses, this stuff should be ok. i'm gonna start low and only work up to like 80mcg at most on this stuff. seems most peoples problems on this stuff is they work their way up to a dose that is "bearable", which basically means they're on the border of what their body can physically handle, and how can that be safe?

the only reasonable alternative for any kind of decent increase in fat-loss is an eca stack, which is far less effective comparatively (scientifically), and many people have claimed an eca stack can be even worse side-effect wise than clen due to the higher doses needed for effectiveness. i think from what i've read, a moderately low dosage very gradually increased while watching for side-effects before bumping up to a higher dosage taken over two weeks max should be alright. i'll let you guys know how this stuff works out for me and if there are any problems (if i live through it). just joking i hope.

AC

[RUI-Products]

why use then together.

[Rushzilla]

Shoud I be worried about taking my cialis while running clen ?

[crazykris6]

Shoud I be worried about taking my cialis while running clen?

I have a few friends who run cialis and clen together and they don't have any problems.

[greengenie1234]

same thing with me caffine will speed up ur heart be carefull dude how much are u runing a day?

[greengenie1234]

caffine speed ur heart up be carefull

[tranzit]

scary

[leansauce]

i lose zero of my gains when i use clen for approximately 4 weeks at 80mcg during my pct, its a crucial element for me. one time i did experience chest pains and i discontinued administration, i have not yet experienced any bad sides other than hardcore jitters, its impossible to just hold my hands still, but its bearable and unnoticeable to others unless pointed out

[BigChris]

Shoud I be worried about taking my cialis while running clen?

Shouldn't pose a problem...just NEVER use nitrates while you are on cialis (for example poppers) - you will drop dead before you can count to ten.