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    Jumpstarting with Prop?

    3 weeks till I start my cycle. It will consist of Test E @750mg week and
    Tren A @ 75mg ED. I was thinking of starting it off with some Prop. Do you recomend this if so how much and how long? I was thinking of Just 50mg ed for 2 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine2000
    3 weeks till I start my cycle. It will consist of Test E @750mg week and
    Tren A @ 75mg ED. I was thinking of starting it off with some Prop. Do you recomend this if so how much and how long? I was thinking of Just 50mg ed for 2 weeks
    I usually front load with some prop. 2 weeks is perfect.

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    I think the Tren will kick in fast enough and you dont need the prop. If anything throw an oral in there for an extra kickstart.

    I love frontloading Prop as V does but with just longer esters in the mix. The Tren will kick in realtively quick while the Enathate makes its run. Others I"m sure will disagree but it all boils down to preference.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    I think the Tren will kick in fast enough and you dont need the prop. If anything throw an oral in there for an extra kickstart.

    I love frontloading Prop as V does but with just longer esters in the mix. The Tren will kick in realtively quick while the Enathate makes its run. Others I"m sure will disagree but it all boils down to preference.........
    You know Jay, I didn't even catch that he had tren in there. In that case there isn't as much reason to jumpstart with the prop. Tren gives me some pretty immediate gains. But I can always tell when I have test in there and I do like that feeling. Might be more psychological than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvetlion
    I didn't even catch that he had tren in there.
    I'm with ya V. If that Tren wasnt in there I'd be all over the Prop. Just like yourself the gains, and sides, come rather quickly from Tren so I'm sure he would be just fine without the Prop........

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    Thanks guys, mabey your right, i think i'll just forget about the prop

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    do you already have the prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    do you already have the prop?
    No, Just the tren , I was origionally planing on running prop throughout but decided to go with enanthate so i didnt have to deal with the constant pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine2000
    No, Just the tren, I was origionally planing on running prop throughout but decided to go with enanthate so i didnt have to deal with the constant pain.
    I think you know what to do now, Good Luck MM.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine2000
    Thanks guys, mabey your right, i think i'll just forget about the prop
    No, get some prop. How is your cycle layout?

    If Tren is up front and ends before the Test E, use the prop for 11 days after your last shot of test e. You will still start the PCT the same day but make more efficient use of Time On by keeping test levels high for the 2 weeks between last test e shot and PCT.

    So if Test E is 1-12 then on week 13 start prop injections for 11 days, then start pct 3 days after the last prop shot, which also works out to be the 14the day after the last test e shot.

    PCT Start Times:
    http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=94822

    Making most efficient use of time on:

    http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=989

    Actually that thread says to start the prop sooner than the day after the last shot of teste. Either way don't waste time on.

    Everyone always remembers to focus on jump starting, always consider jump ending to, if you are using long esters at the end.
    Last edited by sp9; 03-09-2006 at 04:46 PM.

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    I'd go with an oral to kickstart. Either Dbol or Tbol. Then end with Test Prop 75mg/ED for the final 4-6 weeks leading to PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sp9
    No, get some prop. How is your cycle layout?
    Planned layout:
    Test E @ 750mg week, week 1-12
    Tren A @ 75mg ed, week 1-8
    nolva @ 10mg ed,week 1-14
    B-6 @ 200mg ed, week 1-14
    PCT nolva & clomid, week 15-17

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine2000
    Planned layout:
    Test E @ 750mg week, week 1-12
    Tren A @ 75mg ed, week 1-8
    nolva @ 10mg ed,week 1-14
    B-6 @ 200mg ed, week 1-14
    PCT nolva & clomid, week 15-17
    Cool. If you can get the prop, I would go for it and start it about week 12 and run it up until 3 days before your PCT at week 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine2000
    Planned layout:
    Test E @ 750mg week, week 1-12
    Tren A @ 75mg ed, week 1-8
    nolva @ 10mg ed,week 1-end of PCT
    B-6 @ 200mg ed, week 1-14
    PCT nolva & clomid, week 14-17
    Nice looks Good MM. I just bolded the chages I'd make brotha..........

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