No Test Cycle

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[Anabolios]

it would definetly work proviron being for libido support you might get lethargic but i dont think anyone feels their best while cutting

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[velvetlion]

I've mentioned this in some other threads, but I just wanted to run this idea by everyone and see what they thought. Also, for the record, I have no desire to run this cycle... just seeing a lot of questions on "var only" cycles and this idea keeps jumping into my head.

Unless I'm understanding this wrong, seems like those that say throw in test say so because the gear (all gear) suppresses your natural test production. Thus this will make gains harder and cause libido issues.

Now if you were going to run a compoud such at Tren or Deca I can see no reason NOT to run Test. Its obvious you want size, so add Test!

But for a purely cutting cycle, why not a compoud like Var (or maybe EQ, etc) and just run HCG and maybe Prov along with it?? Of course, still followed by PCT.


Am I missing something or is there a reason that wouldn't work?

I think it would work. And I believe there have been some threads on here before on Var only cycles. I myself have no experience with var.........but have seen some its effects on others. If you are were just looking to harden up, maybe a bit of a strenght gain, I think it would be fine.

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[velvetlion]

I've seen a ton of var only threads. But in every one it seems that 99% of the replies are "RUN TEST." I did a lot of research before I started my cycle, including hcg. And every time I see a "MUST HAVE TEST" comment I just think "why not hcg?"

I prefer to run test with all my cycles and think that it is always a good idea. But do I think a var cycle with some hcg would work? Most likely, but I don't have any experience to back that up.

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[Anabolios]

i agree that it would work..but if you are worried about sides from test i think they might be worse from hcg because hcg is very androgenic and not as anabolic as test..so why not go with test?

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[Anabolios]

i hear that..sounds like something to look into for someone with these interests/goals

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[ivrig]

I have run cycles without testo, I just bloat too much, so don`t run it every time, takes a damn millenium before my face is normal. It works well, though many get problems with libido, but never me, lucky there.

I know people who have run anavar only cycles, and gotten good gains

[Swifto]

The common rule the majority abide by is to run a form of testosterone as a base for every cycle. This is due to a number of reasons. Testosterone is the main hormone for muscle building/muscle gains. It increases labido that other AS may decrease also. I will keep a form of testosterone as the base of every cycle but would be willing to experiment a little, if precautions are taken. If I decided to do this I'd take some Proviron for labido purposes, HCG to reduce/prevent testicular inhibition and possibly add some Tribulas for labido purposes again.

I have no experience with "No Test" cycles but would be very intrested on others experiences...

Ideas I've had would be. Tbol only, Tbol/Var, Var only, Dbol /Tbol, Tbol/EQ, Tbol/Primo and more combinations of the above compounds. Proviron/HCG/Trib would also be addittions to the cycles listed.

[goose]

This board needs to understand we have a world Different world in sports,Actually it`s humorous.This idea of test as a must is truly Absurd,this clearly shows no one has an idea what is happening in the Olympic`s,you think they all take test,nigga please!!!


goose...

[ivrig]

Different drugs for different purposes. Though i think it`s good adding test, i find that mood-swings are easier to get when not having test in my cycle. Much easier to get deppresive for many reasons without it.

But I agree, depends on what you want, always. Test is good for beginners though

[vitor]

I have done test cycles and test-free cycles, and liked them both. From my expirience there will be more muscle gains when Test is included ofcourse, but also more sides like acne and increased hair growth.

One Test-free cycle ive done which I really liked alot, was this one:
T-bol-50mgs ed 1-10
var-100mgs ed 1-10
Primo-1g ew 1-10
Proviron -50mgs ed 1-10

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[Liftnainez]

This board needs to understand we have a world Different world in sports,Actually it`s humorous.This idea of test as a must is truly Absurd,this clearly shows no one has an idea what is happening in the Olympic`s,you think they all take test,nigga please!!!


goose...

AMEN BROTHA!!!! EXACTLYYY my belief as well.. Most people just read it catch on to it and spread the word w/o even having any expirinence with cycles with test or w/o.. very well said... right on point

[Liftnainez]

vitor i sent you a pm brotha..