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03-21-2006, 11:50 AM #1
Cutting with Test E for the sportsman...
I’m currently 5’10’’, 192lbs with 11.5% bf.
I’d like to reduce my bf, increase muscularity and definition without getting any heavier because of sports.
My question is, could this be achieved with:
- a 12wk novice cycle of Test E 500
- Var 60mgs (8wks)
- T3 approx 120mcgs ED
- Aromasin 20mgs ED (13wks & PCT)
- a clean diet
- solid cardio (basketball and bike/treadmill)
If not please amend it.
Lastly, how would I properly implement Aromasin into PCT?
Thank you all,
Gold
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03-21-2006, 12:00 PM #2Originally Posted by GoldieTheMack
If not wanting to get any heavier Test Enan may not be ideal. As its use often leads to one holding water retention. An AI can reduce/prevent this, but other testosterones are more suited at making the user hold less water, such as, Test Prop.
I'd start Aromasin at 20mg/ED for the cycle and during PCT and adjust the dose accordingly. 20mg/ED for the length of your PCT along with the other compounds in your PCT protocol should suffice. Out of curiosity, whats your PCT protocol?
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03-21-2006, 12:07 PM #3
Your last question was answered by my last question.
How would I incorporate Aromasin into a basic Clom 100/Nolva 20 PCT? Would one of them be reduced or is the AI just added?
Gold
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03-21-2006, 12:44 PM #4
This is a very good cycle for your goal, though there are significant points of interest. You'll need to keep a close eye on your weight because as Swifto noted though diet is key, Test naturally increases weight, so:
- Your diet will have to be very clean and atypical to offset weigt gain. Typically, bb'rs want to consume protein at 200-300 gms a day, and bulkers in excess of 300. So keep your's moderate, you'll have to find the ideal range based on weight fluctuations and cardio caloric consumption.
- Use carbs sparingly, I'd recommend cycling them every 3rd day.
- You didn't mention how often you play ball, but of course this too will offset Test's natural tendency without restricting your intake.
- Use the gym cardio strategically, as you would polish. (I really like the fat burning you're working with here, T3, Var's fat burning properties, and of course Test itself. This is well designed).
As for your PCT question, AI's are "generally" additive, and would not change standard PCT protocol.
Good luck.
M.Last edited by magic32; 03-21-2006 at 12:57 PM.
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03-21-2006, 12:48 PM #5Originally Posted by magic32
marcus
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03-21-2006, 01:01 PM #6
Good thought Marcus, but with a goal of ZERO weight change, I think he'll need every burner available to him. Heck, I'd even through in some Clen or Ephedra, if possible. This is quite an endeavor. You might want to keep a journal for forum posterity.
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03-21-2006, 01:05 PM #7Originally Posted by magic32
Marcus
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03-21-2006, 01:10 PM #8
120mcg of T3 is way to much,you are gona loose muscle,id drop it to 25mcg.Diet and cardio are the most important poart in any cutting cycle.
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03-21-2006, 01:18 PM #9Originally Posted by marcus300
However, there are gradations of control, and doing so to the point where you return a zero net gain, with a ravenous appetite, requires more than diet. That’s why I like the ancillaries and would recommend Clen or Eph also.
Additionally, let me state for the record, I’ve never read a single piece of literature from you that I disagreed with. So that said keep up the good work and thanks for permitting me to clarify.
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03-21-2006, 01:19 PM #10Originally Posted by xtralarg
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03-21-2006, 01:22 PM #11Originally Posted by magic32
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03-21-2006, 04:34 PM #12Originally Posted by magic32
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03-21-2006, 05:16 PM #13Originally Posted by xtralarg
Right, I agree that 120mcg is too much T3
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03-21-2006, 05:48 PM #14Originally Posted by xtralarg
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03-22-2006, 12:54 AM #15Originally Posted by MasterShake
More is not always better!
He should consider adding clen .
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03-22-2006, 09:00 AM #16Originally Posted by xtralarg
Good call XTR.
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