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    AlwaysCutting12 is offline New Member
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    Unhappy On test and seeing no gains

    I've been on 500mg of Test Enan + 100mg Test Cyp. (Hormone Replacement Therapy dose) along with 400mg of EQ for almost 7 weeks now, and have gained only 2lbs, of which constantly fluctuates +-4lbs... My weight has been steady for the entire cycle and I am beginning to wonder why things arent going ANYWHERE.. I mean, I know the test is working, just based on the rapid increase of facial hair growth, and sky-high libido, etc.. but why isn't the weight/size coming on at all? I am running .25mg ADex e2d in addition, but that dose isnt really enough to cause this.. Ive gained some strength, but what has been gained could have been gained easily without anabolics... Diet is great, HIGH protein (2-2.3g per lb), Moderate Carb (300g), High fat (150g) totaling roughly 4100 cals per day..

    BTW this is my first cycle, although I do have plenty experience with the old PHs and such... Basically, I'm getting all the side effects and feelings without the gains, and don't really know why..

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    if your diet really is on point then its bunk gear..

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    lay out ur exact diet...what are ur stats also...

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    hope u are a late boomer.. but u should have seen some water weight gained at least.. Maybe up ur cals even more..

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    if you wanted to bulk, why didnt you run deca ?

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    lol that sux, i know several people who are like u and have shyt response to growth. now what concerns me is u should of acquired 10lbs+ of water weight w/in first 5 weeks w/ mod str gains.

    test IMO is fairly week as far as str gains go but its still great

    heres what i suggest.. stop taking arimidex , and nolva (if u are) and any other AI or Estrogen antagonist and see if gains come on.. U NEED ESTROGEN TO GROW! i assure u of this.

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    As already said-probably diet or bunk gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    heres what i suggest.. stop taking arimidex, and nolva (if u are) and any other AI or Estrogen antagonist and see if gains come on.. U NEED ESTROGEN TO GROW! i assure u of this.

    Agree

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    Sounds like bad gear.

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    are u lifting weights?

    i dunno sounds like bunk gear otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    lol that sux, i know several people who are like u and have shyt response to growth. now what concerns me is u should of acquired 10lbs+ of water weight w/in first 5 weeks w/ mod str gains.

    test IMO is fairly week as far as str gains go but its still great

    heres what i suggest.. stop taking arimidex, and nolva (if u are) and any other AI or Estrogen antagonist and see if gains come on.. U NEED ESTROGEN TO GROW! i assure u of this.
    Ill try that.

    I know it's not fake, simply based on how I feel and the painful wood I get every morning now that Im on. Also got my gear from a very reliable source..

    My diet is awesome, actually:

    MEal #1: 1c oatmeal
    4 egg whites/2 yolk
    2tbsp peanut butter
    1/2 grapefruit
    1c skim milk
    1 scoop whey (mixed in oats)

    Meal #2: 3/4c oatmeal
    2tbsp almond butter
    1c strawberries
    6oz. chicken

    Meal #3: 2/3c brown rice
    4oz. avocado
    2c broccoli
    6oz. turkey cutlets

    Meal #4: 1/2 grapefruit
    1 ezekiel tortilla
    6oz. alaskan cod
    2c broccoli
    24 almonds

    Meal #5: 6oz Chicken
    24 almonds
    1.5 c broccoli

    Meal #6: 6oz. 96% lean beef
    2c spinach
    1/2 cucumber
    3oz. avocado

    Meal #7: 1c cottage cheese
    2tbsp Peanut Butter
    1c green beans

    Fish Oil is taken with meals 1, 2, 4, and 6
    Sesamin is taken with meals 1, 3, and 7

    This is about 400g protein, 300g carbs and 150-160g fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    if you wanted to bulk, why didnt you run deca?
    wanted to wait for a later cycle, this being my first injectable cycle..

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    bump.

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    what are ur stats...me myself im on my first cycle and learned that 500mg doesnt do shit for me...im now finishing cycle with 750mg/wk and i feel alot better...im guessing wieght may have something to do with it..

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    i am sure you know your stuff. one thing we could be forgetting is sleep. how many hours a night are you getting? stress level? this could play apart as well; however, if this is your first cycle then you should be seeing some weight gains with the amount of gear you are using.

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    Could be overtraining, but the water weight should be building up by now.
    You said it's HRT, right?

    Were your nat levels low to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
    Could be overtraining, but the water weight should be building up by now.
    You said it's HRT, right?

    Were your nat levels low to begin with?
    natty levels were low to start.. been on HRT for about 5 years now.. the 100mg of Cyp. is my HRT dose; the 500mg of Enan is the cycle addition.

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