Tren A, Test E and winstrol as 2nd cycle

**maximus007** · 03-28-2006, 06:24 PM

this would be my second cycle. my first was deca and winstrol and made great gains. could somebody please help as to how much to take and for how long with my second cycle. I have Tren A, Test E and Winstrol liquid form. Thanks

***G-1000*** · 03-28-2006, 06:32 PM

I would not advise tren and winny at the same timefor a 2 cycle.

**maximus007** · 03-29-2006, 11:55 AM

i've done a lot of reading on this site and it seems that others have question about the same cycle. is there a reason why i shouldn't run tren and winnie together. After seeing other people's cycle how is this for amount and length
This is only my second cycle so I don't want to run a whole lot
week 1-10 Test E 400ml a week
week 2-8 tren A 75ml EOD
week 6-12 Winnie 50ml ED
IS it okay to take winnie EOD at 75ml istead of ED at 50ml
your advise is greatly appreciated

**HUNTER1** · 03-29-2006, 01:31 PM

gsxxr is right - you probably don't need both compounds seeing as its only your second cycle. why waste the experience, you have plenty of time to try out the different drugs available. I think you'd be really pleased w/ a cycle of test prop and tren acetate for like 8 weeks. just my .02

**QuieTSToRM33** · 03-29-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by maximus007

i've done a lot of reading on this site and it seems that others have question about the same cycle. is there a reason why i shouldn't run tren and winnie together. After seeing other people's cycle how is this for amount and length
This is only my second cycle so I don't want to run a whole lot
week 1-10 Test E 400ml a week
week 2-8 tren A 75ml EOD
week 6-12 Winnie 50ml ED
IS it okay to take winnie EOD at 75ml istead of ED at 50ml
your advise is greatly appreciated

I think you should NOT run tren for your second cycle.

#1 ..... Your first cycle was deca /winny .......... not smart
#2 ..... You're dosing ur cycle in mL .... should be mg

By the looks of it ....... you need to spend some more time readin on this board.

**Swifto** · 03-29-2006, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

I think you should NOT run tren for your second cycle.

#1 ..... Your first cycle was deca /winny .......... not smart
#2 ..... You're dosing ur cycle in mL .... should be mg

By the looks of it ....... you need to spend some more time readin on this board.

Agreed.

Tren is for the more experienced. A 2nd cycle isnt experienced IMHO.

Just run Test Enan or Test Cyp ONLY as you havent run a form of Test before. No other compounds needed.

**stocky121** · 03-29-2006, 01:54 PM

no tren for a second cycle

***BajanBastard*** · 03-29-2006, 02:00 PM

I used Tren A @ 75mg ed for my 1st cycle and I'm fine. Try it if you don't like it stop the drug simple as that.

**Swifto** · 03-29-2006, 02:03 PM

If you do decide to run it. I'd suggest 50mg/ED and adjust the dose accordingly, comparing gains/sides.

**badboy247** · 03-29-2006, 03:41 PM

tren ace is very strong not advisable for second course,,, and with win dep youll end up like a pin cushion inj alternately ED.

if u gotta use tren ace,, 50mg eod 23 ga needle.

**Booz** · 03-29-2006, 03:48 PM

we are advising to someone we do not know the stats/training exp of.......
can you post your stats and training exp please mate........
imo unless you are one of the few bros like Big klg tren should not really be run as a second cycle.............

**maximus007** · 03-29-2006, 04:54 PM

you guys are making me all paranoid about tren . Here is my stats i'm 25 years old 6'1 180 with low body fat, athletic build. body types is ectomorph. i can eat anything and won't put on fat, been lifting on and off since i'm 16. my first cycle was 8 months ago. deca 400mg per week and winstrol 50mg ed. i put on 30 pounds. sitting at 210. and now i'm back at 180lbs I want to put on ripp lean mass this time. what do you guys suggest. I already have test E. Tren A. and winnie. I can replace Tren if neccessary. LEAN MASS. thanks guys

**maximus007** · 03-29-2006, 04:59 PM

thanks for taking your time to help out a newbie

***BajanBastard*** · 03-29-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by maximus007

you guys are making me all paranoid about tren. Here is my stats i'm 25 years old 6'1 180 with low body fat, athletic build. body types is ectomorph. i can eat anything and won't put on fat, been lifting on and off since i'm 16. my first cycle was 8 months ago. deca 400mg per week and winstrol 50mg ed. i put on 30 pounds. sitting at 210. and now i'm back at 180lbs I want to put on ripp lean mass this time. what do you guys suggest. I already have test E. Tren A. and winnie. I can replace Tren if neccessary. LEAN MASS. thanks guys

Exactly. Look, this is my honest opinion. Way to much info on AAS forums are nothing but hear say and speculation. I have yet to see a good reason why tren should not be used for a 1st, 2nd, or even a 3rd cycle. The reasons I have seen were total garbage.

**Receiver84** · 03-29-2006, 08:18 PM

I didn't touch it until my 5th cycle. All the stuff mentioned often here was true. I was moody, sweaty, and got really strong! I was glad I waited until my 5th cycle otherwise I'm not sure I would have known how to deal with the sides. I was prepared.

**goalseeker** · 03-29-2006, 09:42 PM

I waited for Tren just cuz the sides I always heard of. Although Im only a week in, theres been no probs.. Im actually loving it, even though its early still...I love jabbin ED.. Cant wait till next week when things really start rollin...

**Smiley619** · 03-29-2006, 09:58 PM

if you are eating and training right how do you lose 30 pounds in 8 months?!? anyhow, use the tren if you want just, just be aware of the sides and if they get outta control you can always drop and it will be out of your system quick. oh yeah i would also use prop over E

**goalseeker** · 03-29-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Smiley619

. oh yeah i would also use prop over E

.. me too......absolutely.....

**anabolicvenom** · 03-29-2006, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by maximus007

you guys are making me all paranoid about tren . Here is my stats i'm 25 years old 6'1 180 with low body fat, athletic build. body types is ectomorph. i can eat anything and won't put on fat, been lifting on and off since i'm 16. my first cycle was 8 months ago. deca 400mg per week and winstrol 50mg ed. i put on 30 pounds. sitting at 210. and now i'm back at 180lbs I want to put on ripp lean mass this time. what do you guys suggest. I already have test E. Tren A. and winnie. I can replace Tren if neccessary. LEAN MASS. thanks guys

did u use pct during ur first cycle?

**maximus007** · 03-30-2006, 03:52 AM

i lost the wieghts because i was so busy with work and other things that i was unable to hit the gym for 6 months and just getting into it about 3 weeks ago

**maximus007** · 03-31-2006, 12:56 AM

i think i'm just gonna go ahead with it.

week 1-10 test e 400mg per week
week 2-8 tren 75mg eod
week 6-12 winnie 100mg eod maybe 50mg ed depending on how i'm liking the shots
start pct 3 days after last winnie shot

i'll keep you guys posted week to week

***BajanBastard*** · 03-31-2006, 09:00 AM

Inject the tren ED, tren poor binding to shbg and the acetate ester gives it a short active life. Start @ 50mg.

**goalseeker** · 03-31-2006, 11:09 AM

I agree.. Inject the Tren ED.. and start at 50mg...

**MartyMcFly** · 03-31-2006, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by maximus007

i lost the wieghts because i was so busy with work and other things that i was unable to hit the gym for 6 months and just getting into it about 3 weeks ago

He is just back in the gym for three weeks. Be sure to keep a log of how you lost all of your gains again. The only reason to stay out of the gym that long is a hospital stay.

**a78** · 03-31-2006, 12:45 PM

week 1-10 Test E 400ml a week
week 2-8 tren A 75ml EOD
week 6-12 Winnie 50ml ED
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in this cycle i will drop test-e
and put test-prop

that`s me...

**maximus007** · 04-07-2006, 10:21 PM

i switch it to test prop. had 3 shots already 100mg EOD. i'm about to start the Tren now, is it OK to shoot Test Prop and Tren A in the same syringe. thanks

**maximus007** · 04-15-2006, 01:06 AM

well i've been on tren for about a week now at 50mg everyday. don't notice anysides. no night sweats or any of the sides that i've read about. strength gain in the gym. put on 10 pounds now, 2 weeks of props and 1 week of tren