keeping size

[luther66]

Hi,whats the best thing to take to keep my size,i have worked very hard this past 16 weeks,i wont go into the cycle ive been using but it was tapered off with sus and deca ,anyone got any ideas what to take to keep my size.

[DHew]

Uhm, if you cant take a few seconds to write down your cycle, then i wont take the extra to help you.

[1buffsob]

A good PCT,diet, and intense training. Since you're feeling like being vague, your responses will be just as vague.

[sbeast007]

pct,rest,training,eating right

[Timm1704]

i agree with the vagueness thing, and that you get what u give. but, im bored, and fancy adding to my post count. make sure you keep eating as much, if not MORE than you did on-cycle, keep the training intense, but be cautious of overtraining, as when using steroids , your body is able to recover MUCH quicker than when not on the juice. and ofcourse, a solid PCT will be necessary to get your hormones back in check, and back at the right level to keep building muscle tissue

[ascendant]

cmon guys, at least he didn't ramble on about his whole cycle and training regime. he gave us the min of what we'd need to let him know what's up and saved us the time of having to read a dragged out thread. lets help him out here.

for pct, the main base is typically nolva for anti-e. clomid can also be taken as an additional anti-e and also has the added benefit of being a test booster as well, helping your own bodies test levels start to get back to normal. clen is a good call to prevent muscle loss as an anti-catabolic agent. to finish off, i like to give myself a nice shot of hcg right near the end of my pct.

right there, those 4 are all you should ever really need. there are some possibly better alternatives for the anti-e, but as far as price-wise, these are the most economical choices for most people. i know 4 things as pct may seem like a lot, but that will minimize muscle loss at the end of a cycle as well as maximize your own bodies recuperation, helping you get back to "normal" (whatever that is) much faster. good luck.

[1buffsob]

I'd go with a PCT such as this with the longer cycles.

http://www.meso-rx.com/articles/anth...le-therapy.htm

It's what I'm doing once I finish my 16 weeker.

Best of luck.

1buffsob

[joeben22]

cmon guys, at least he didn't ramble on about his whole cycle and training regime. he gave us the min of what we'd need to let him know what's up and saved us the time of having to read a dragged out thread. lets help him out here.

for pct, the main base is typically nolva for anti-e. clomid can also be taken as an additional anti-e and also has the added benefit of being a test booster as well, helping your own bodies test levels start to get back to normal. clen is a good call to prevent muscle loss as an anti-catabolic agent. to finish off, i like to give myself a nice shot of hcg right near the end of my pct.

right there, those 4 are all you should ever really need. there are some possibly better alternatives for the anti-e, but as far as price-wise, these are the most economical choices for most people. i know 4 things as pct may seem like a lot, but that will minimize muscle loss at the end of a cycle as well as maximize your own bodies recuperation, helping you get back to "normal" (whatever that is) much faster. good luck.

Nolva isn't actually an anti-e. It works by blocking the estrogen receptors. Nolva will also raise natty test levels just as clomid will.

[Swifto]

There are many variables to determine 'how much' one will attain, post cycle.

- Compounds used whilst "on"
- PCT Protocol/Compounds
- Diet
- Training
- Rest
- Genetics
- Duration of cycle

[trulbfan3]

take clomid, nolvadex etc. u could through tribulus tongkat and what ever else to get your nuts running again. you could use clen to block cortisol along with glutamine. eat a ton of proteing and take creatine. work your ass off in the gym.

[1buffsob]

There are many variables to determine 'how much' one will attain, post cycle.

- Compounds used whilst "on"
- PCT Protocol/Compounds
- Diet
- Training
- Rest
- Genetics
- Duration of cycle

Agreed. The things in bold can be manipulated to keep the results you attained while 'on'.

[ascendant]

Nolva isn't actually an anti-e. It works by blocking the estrogen receptors. Nolva will also raise natty test levels just as clomid will.

well, an anti-e is generally accepted as something that protects you against the effects of estrogen, so nolva is in essense an anti-e. though nolva may raise test levels marginally, clomids effects regarding that matter are far more effective in all the research i've done.

[Irishguy22]

Uhm, if you cant take a few seconds to write down your cycle, then i wont take the extra to help you.

real mature what are you six years old, help the kid out or not

[taiotosh7]

pct is most important!! With this comes good eating and training habbits.....good rest as well

[Swifto]

well, an anti-e is generally accepted as something that protects you against the effects of estrogen, so nolva is in essense an anti-e. though nolva may raise test levels marginally, clomids effects regarding that matter are far more effective in all the research i've done.

Not mg/mg when compared with Nolva.

[Booz]

right luther we need to know the cycle to be able to tell you how and when to take your pct................
you really should have had this sorted before you started the cycle mate.................

[ascendant]

right luther we need to know the cycle to be able to tell you how and when to take your pct................
you really should have had this sorted before you started the cycle mate.................

though i agree completely with what booz here said, i would like to think this guy just didn't find out about pct until he already started his gear. to be honest, when i did my first cycle, i read all about gear and did my research on what i was putting into me, but nobody had ever told me about pct at that point yet, so i didn't even know about it. i made out ok though all things considered, but of course pct does help a lot, especially on heavier cycles.

[Swifto]

though i agree completely with what booz here said, i would like to think this guy just didn't find out about pct until he already started his gear. to be honest, when i did my first cycle, i read all about gear and did my research on what i was putting into me, but nobody had ever told me about pct at that point yet, so i didn't even know about it. i made out ok though all things considered, but of course pct does help a lot, especially on heavier cycles.

PCT is essential. Even if its a 'light'/'heavy' cycle. You should want to aid your body from recovering from administering any androgens.

[DHew]

Irish:

The more he helps me out, the more i can help him out. I see so often people that come on and are just like "how do i do this?" with no research. This is a popular topic, and he could've researched a bit, and gave us a PCT to constuctively critisize. If you want to baby him, then do it. Its better for him to research some on his own first. BTW, no need for name calling. Dont get so upset.

[Irishguy22]

ok your right i just think you could have been nicer

[Irishguy22]

OK your right