Primo or Oral Turinabol?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-16-2006, 03:52 AM

Guys i want to do one of the two mentioned...
Primo depot 200-400mg EW 10weeks or
OT 60mg ED 30-40 days???
which of the two will give me more gains preferably solid?

**Milky87** · 04-16-2006, 06:53 PM

most liekly the Tbol

**mick-g** · 04-16-2006, 07:17 PM

I liked the tbol and it is much more cost effective.

**Testostack** · 04-17-2006, 02:02 AM

Go Tbol go!!
Var is too expensive for what it give you back!
that said you can also stack both.....heard it worked well

**The Godfather** · 04-17-2006, 05:29 AM

primo, run it at 400mg/wk for 10 weeks, i'd also throw in an amp of test per week if possible to up the androgenic content of the cycle slightly, that would make a good cycle with very few sides, gains would be more sustainable than with the tbol also, IME longer steadier cycles generally result in more lasting gains as your body has more of a chance to adapt to the new mass

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 07:45 AM

Thanks guys...most recomend Tbol but The Godfather made me think a bit even though i dont think abt adding test even prop...please i want something more DOES anyone now how many mg's is each OT tab? does it come in 5? 10? or 20mg???

**ODC0717** · 04-17-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

Guys i want to do one of the two mentioned...
Primo depot 200-400mg EW 10weeks or
OT 60mg ED 30-40 days???
which of the two will give me more gains preferably solid?

My money would be on the OT. The dose of primo is too light. Maybe if you were a women, but I don't think you are. And if you're running the primo by itself there's no way in hell you'd gain a whole lot of LBM. Now that's not to say that you can run OT by itslef and be fine, I feel that any and all cycles should have test included, regarless of ester. For the OT I'd get some prop and run it 75-100mg ED and the OT at what you previously stated. Run the prop for 6 weeks minimum, I think 8 would be better.

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

Thanks guys...most recomend primo but The Godfather made me think a bit even though i dont think abt adding test even prop...please i want something more DOES anyone now how many mg's is each OT tab? does it come in 5? 10? or 20mg???

the dose of each OT tab depends on where you get it. Most of what I've seen is a liquid oral that's about 20mg/ml. There are also some UGL's that cap it around the same dose. It just depends on which lab you go with.

What goals are you trying to accomplish with this cycle?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:01 AM

i just want not to loose muscle, i try to cut a bit, and if possible to gain lets say 8 to 10 lbs (can OT give me that LBs alone?)
Last time i run test i hold of water even though i was using letro and proviron with it ...so as summer approaches i d like to stay clean
I know that its not reccomended to do orals only without test but i just want to try some...
Do you now anything abt tabs of OT abt the mg i mean...something?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:03 AM

the guy i m buying from has tabs

**ODC0717** · 04-17-2006, 08:16 AM

It depends on the lab. And for that you'd be better served doing a source check, but there's pre-requisits that must be met before you can do a source check with a vet/mod. OT would be the way to go if you didn't want to use test. I'd get some prop and if h2o retention is still and issue you get get a mild diuretic. The bottom line is that the test is going to enhance the cycle, be it OT or primo.

So you want to add about 8-10lbs while cutting? I think a lean mass cycle would better serve you, but it won't include just OT. More like test prop/tren acetate and OT. Or just the prop/tren combo is a killer LBM cycle. You could also get some anavar to run with the OT if you didn't want to use test in the cycle. A few bro on this board have run or are running an OT/var cycle with good results. I think that you need to research more. It dosen't sound like you're too informed of the stuff you're buying which isin't good as it leaves you open to being scammed, and no one likes that. I would say be a bit more patient and put in some man hours of research so you know what you're buying.

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:30 AM

I ve read all the posts in here abt OT, it took me a week reading but i didnt find anything abt mg per tab

Noone compared the 2 : primo-OT

Everyone tells to use test...ok irespect that but i just want to know if OT for 45days at 50mg would add some mass...some guys as you said tried it alone and earned 10-12lbs...is that possible or not?

I read abt anavar /oT stack and its good but its gonna cost me 600 (six hundred) euros only the anavar so as you can i cant even think abt it
Abt tren , way too much sides...

**vitor** · 04-17-2006, 08:31 AM

Why not take Primo and t-bol at the same time?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:34 AM

Right thought...what abt that primo at 200-400mg will help any better? i ask cause in here it is recommended at 600mg and going up to 1G??

**vitor** · 04-17-2006, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

Right thought...what abt that primo at 200-400mg will help any better? i ask cause in here it is recommended at 600mg and going up to 1G??

If you can afford it, 1 gram Primo ew would be greate. Ive run Primo at 3200 mgs ew, with nice results and no sides at all.
You could try this:

Primo;1g 1-10
T-bol;60mgs ed 1-10

**shadyadam** · 04-17-2006, 08:40 AM

Ya primo dosage is at 600-1000mg, if its your first cycle with primo and tbol try running it this way.

T-bol - 50mg/ED x 5-6wks

Primo - 600mg 10-12wks

Anyone else agree or disagree?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:46 AM

THnks for the quick answers guys ....but i cant afford primo at 1g ( 1000 euros here they are 200mg/ml, i ll need 5 per week) 600 is better.
vitor and shadyadam what do u vote for OT for 6weeks at 50mg or Primo for 10 at 400mg ( i weigh 180)

**shadyadam** · 04-17-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

THnks for the quick answers guys ....but i cant afford primo at 1g ( 1000 euros here they are 200mg/ml, i ll need 5 per week) 600 is better.
vitor and shadyadam what do u vote for OT for 6weeks at 50mg or Primo for 10 at 400mg ( i weigh 180)

Well if this is your first cycle I would go T-bol for 6wks at 50mg. I know that primo is expensive but 400mg is way underdosed. If you want to see something from the primo you have to run at least 600mg and thats the min dosage!

Good luck!!

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:54 AM

Thanks man i appreciate it ...
I ll follow your advice...if i up OT at 60 or 70-80 will this be better??? last thing sorry for annoyence!

**vitor** · 04-17-2006, 08:55 AM

I agree with Shadyadam. If these are your two options right now, go with the T-bol.

**Testostack** · 04-17-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

I ve read all the posts in here abt OT, it took me a week reading but i didnt find anything abt mg per tab

Noone compared the 2 : primo-OT

Everyone tells to use test...ok irespect that but i just want to know if OT for 45days at 50mg would add some mass...some guys as you said tried it alone and earned 10-12lbs...is that possible or not?

I read abt anavar /oT stack and its good but its gonna cost me 600 (six hundred) euros only the anavar so as you can i cant even think abt it
Abt tren , way too much sides...

OT is better and cheaper imo, but var or primo can be trown in too, just to cut off some fat...now 600€ is veryexpensive!! are ya planning to buy a whole stock for the year???

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 08:59 AM

thnks man...also as i said if up Ot at 60-70-80 will this be better?

**Testostack** · 04-17-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by shadyadam

Ya primo dosage is at 600-1000mg, if its your first cycle with primo and tbol try running it this way.

T-bol - 50mg/ED x 5-6wks

Primo - 600mg 10-12wks

Anyone else agree or disagree?

Soundsgood to me.....you might want to start @ 40 mg ED for Week 1 and then bump up a bit

**shadyadam** · 04-17-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

Thanks man i appreciate it ...
I ll follow your advice...if i up OT at 60 or 70-80 will this be better??? last thing sorry for annoyence!

Naa i wouldent. Run it at the 50 first and see what kinda results you get then up the dosage.

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Testostack

OT is better and cheaper imo, but var or primo can be trown in too, just to cut off some fat...now 600€ is veryexpensive!! are ya planning to buy a whole stock for the year???

lOl! its oxandrin 2,5mg / tab 60tabs 60 euros ...its box will last 3 days i need at least 10 of them = 600 euros for this ..not for me!

OT is 100 tabs for 50 euros but i dont know yet the mg/tab

so you voted for OT right!?? if up OT at 60-80mg will see something better?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 09:13 AM

What the minimum period of time to run primo...is it 6, 8 , 10, 12, 14 weeks ...most say 10-12 is that right?

**shadyadam** · 04-17-2006, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by greek_pitbull

What the minimum period of time to run primo...is it 6, 8 , 10, 12, 14 weeks ...most say 10-12 is that right?

Yes that is correct 10-12wks

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 09:21 AM

OT is to be run for 5-6 weeks ..more is better ? i read that after week 5 it doesn't giv eyou much..

**Testostack** · 04-17-2006, 10:55 AM

More ain't necessarly better my friend, more is good worst enemy!! in OT case, 6 weeks @ 40-60 mg ED is just fine....now that's just my opinion, when you get used to it, bump it up to 70 or even 80 but for your next cycle....does that sound reasonable?

**greek_pitbull** · 04-17-2006, 12:03 PM

Correct and reasonable maybe i ll try if OT satisfies me as stand alone oral and try somewhere during summertime...thnk you all...

Grow big Get better !!!

**cyclist2173** · 04-17-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

If you can afford it, 1 gram Primo ew would be greate. Ive run Primo at 3200 mgs ew, with nice results and no sides at all.
You could try this:

Primo;1g 1-10
T-bol;60mgs ed 1-10

3.2 grams/week! OMG, Did you take Oral and/or Inj.? I cannot imagine injecting that much a week (if entirely inj.)....plus the cost factor! Of course I don't know what you brew it at either.