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    Is this TOO much AAS?

    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 4 Weeks
    Prop - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 400mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Nolva - 20mg/ED - 20 Weeks

    What would you guys change if anything?

    This is my Fourth cycle. It's been about 9 weeks since end of last PCT.

    Thanks, RIG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rig
    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 4 Weeks
    Prop - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 400mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Nolva - 20mg/ED - 20 Weeks

    What would you guys change if anything?

    This is my Fourth cycle. It's been about 9 weeks since end of last PCT.

    Thanks, RIG
    depends on the doses of deca u ran prior.
    also... u could drop the prop and run dbol 2 more weeks.. since ur jumping w/it. really only need one boost.
    if u havnt ran deca run it at 300 personally i think 300 is good otherwise 400 is fine. all else looks good i would stop deca 2-3weeks before stopping test for recovery purposes.

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    First time running Deca ....

    It wouldn't bother me to drop the prop... I don't mind ED inj but if I can do without it that's better.

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    so you're saying do it like this.

    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 300mg/EW - 13 Weeks
    Nolva - 20mg/ED - 20 Weeks

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    Drop the nolva during the cycle, use adex or letro.

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    how long did u run ur last cycle??

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    Whats your cycle history look like, ie dosages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbeast007
    how long did u run ur last cycle??
    3rd:
    Prop - 100mg/EOD - 4 Weeks
    Enanth - 500mg/EW - 12 Weeks
    Nolva - 20mg/ED - 14 Weeks

    2nd:
    Prop - 50mg/ED - 4 Weeks
    Enanth - 500mg/EW - 12 Weeks
    Nolva - 20mg/ED - 14 Weeks had to up it to 40mg after Week 10

    1st:
    Dbol - 40mg/ED - 4 Weeks
    Enanth - 500mg/EW - 10 Weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rig
    so you're saying do it like this.

    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 300mg/EW - 13 Weeks
    Nolva - 20mg/ED - 20 Weeks
    I like this but would maybe use nolva at 10mg first 6 weeks and drop until pct. Add adex at .5 eod or .25 ed starting one week before start of cycle and run into second week of pct, which you would start the nolva at 20mg and possibly add clomid IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    I like this but would maybe use nolva at 10mg first 6 weeks and drop until pct. Add adex at .5 eod or .25 ed starting one week before start of cycle and run into second week of pct, which you would start the nolva at 20mg and possibly add clomid IMO.
    when you say start 1 week before cycle start. does that mean I discontinue the use of adex at start of cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rig
    when you say start 1 week before cycle start. does that mean I discontinue the use of adex at start of cycle?
    No continue using adex throughout cycle. Beginning adex early to build up the blood concentration so it is effective. The nolva in the beginning is just to help with estrogen from both test and dbol ... after dbol you would be more than fine on adex.

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    so you're saying do it like this?

    Adex - .25/ED - 1 Week Prior + 16 Weeks
    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 300mg/EW - 13 Weeks
    Nolva - 10mg/ED - 6 Weeks

    How should my PCT look on this???

    Thanks

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    My guess is you start it one week before cycle, as it needs some time to stabelize.
    Letro does wonders also, but you need to take that 2 weeks prior to your cycle.

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    good idea changing the length of deca . test should always out run deca in any cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rig
    so you're saying do it like this?

    Adex - .25/ED - 1 Week Prior + 16 Weeks
    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 300mg/EW - 13 Weeks
    Nolva - 10mg/ED - 6 Weeks

    How should my PCT look on this???

    Thanks
    Run the adex to 18 weeks.

    18-22 nolva at 20mg ed
    18-21 clomid 100mg drop to 50mg for week 22

    I think this should work fine.

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    Thanks Meso!

    for my stats I'm 5-10 and 245 now. Got rid of a lot of BF on my last cycle somehow. I'm around 18% I would guess.

    I wonder how much I'll gain and keep on this cycle? Because I really want to try some winny, eq, and prop on a cutter on my 5th cycle. Maybe some GH if I get brave enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rig
    so you're saying do it like this?

    Adex - .25/ED - 1 Week Prior + 16 Weeks
    Dbol - 50mg/ED - 6 Weeks
    Enanth - 750mg/EW - 16 Weeks
    Deca - 300mg/EW - 13 Weeks
    Nolva - 10mg/ED - 6 Weeks

    How should my PCT look on this???

    Thanks
    Id cut the whole cycle down by 2 weeks or even more and id run nolva all the way through cycle and pct, possible chance to up the dose of deca to 400mg, also use proviron in pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Rig
    Thanks Meso!

    for my stats I'm 5-10 and 245 now. Got rid of a lot of BF on my last cycle somehow. I'm around 18% I would guess.

    I wonder how much I'll gain and keep on this cycle? Because I really want to try some winny, eq, and prop on a cutter on my 5th cycle. Maybe some GH if I get brave enough.
    Hey, we are about the same size. Diet will control the gains along with the training/rest. Marcus suggested upping the deca ... I would too. But I would go to 500mg as that would be about 2mg per lbs of weight.

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    I would keep the Prop in there but use it for the last 2 weks while you are waiting for the E to clear out before you start PCT

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