ready to start

[intel]

SUSTANON D-BOL/Twice a day DECA mg/week Nolvadex mg/day Clomidmg/day
1 SUSTANON 250mg. D-BOL/Twice a day 2 * 20mg DECA mg/week 200
2 SUSTANON 250. D-BOL/Twice a day 2 * 30 DECA mg/week 250 - -
3 SUSTANON 250 . D-BOL/Twice a day 2 * 30 DECA mg/week 350Nolvadex 20 mg-
4 SUSTANON 500 D-BOL/Twice a day 2 * 20 DECA mg/week 400 Nolvadex20 -
5 SUSTANON 500 D-BOL/Twice a day 2 * 10 DECA mg/week 400 20 -
6 SUSTANON 500 DECA mg/week 300 Nolvadex 20 -
7 SUSTANON 500 - DECA mg/week 250 Nolvadex 20 -
8 SUSTANON 500 - DECA mg/week 200 Nolvadex 20 Clomidmg/day 50
9 Clomidmg/day 50
10 Clomidmg/day 50


what do u guys think?

[BajanBastard]

I can't make shit out off that.

Post it like this:

Sust250 xxxmg wk 1-?? Wks
Deca xxxmg wk 1-?? Wks
D-bol xxmg ED 1-?? Wks

[intel]

oh , yeah am 25 190lb 6 feet and this is my first cycle

[intel]

week1 250mg SUSTANON D-BOL 2 * 20mg a day DECA 200 mg
week2 250mg SUSTANON D-BOL 2 * 30mg DECA 250 mg
week3 250mg SUSTANON D-BOL 2 * 30mg DECA 350 mg
week4 500mg SUSTANON D-BOL 2 * 20mg DECA 400 mg
week5 500mg SUSTANON D-BOL 2 * 10mg DECA 400 mg
week6 250mg SUSTANON DECA 350 mg
week7 250mg SUSTANON DECA 250 mg
week8 250mg SUSTANON DECA 200 mg

Nolvadex 20mg a day

Clomidmg/day 50 mg a day week 8,9,10,

[hosam4ever]

it should b like this
week 1-12 500 mg sustanon
week 1-4 40 mg dbol
week 1-10 400 mg deca
clomid 300 mg day 1
100 mg for ten days
50 mg

[loki_is_a_god]

first thing....you are taking too much stuff your first time....
you should just use test by itself to see how your body acts...
if something goes wrong how do you know what thing caused it..?
dont pyramid shots.....start at 500mgs of sustanon and stay like that through out the whole cycle...
you should use sustanon for 12 weeks.....too short imo..

[loki_is_a_god]

oh and deca should be used for 12 weeks.....
dbol should be ran over 25mgs per day.....make sure to space out the times you take the pills dbol has a half life of only hours

[tank2005]

12 weeks of suss to short...........

[intel]

this cycle was recommended by the guy who sold me the stuff....i have the supply for both cycle attached......which one you think will work????

and if you have anything that will work for a 8 week ..let me know

[BajanBastard]

12 weeks of suss to short...........

So how long should he run the sust? 24 or 52 weeks?

[C_Bino]

So how long should he run the sust? 24 or 52 weeks?

Tank Tank Tank, where does the guy get his info?

Anyways to the thread started...what is with the pyramiding of your doses? Just whack imo. Do not pyramid. Just do the sust for 12 weeks at 500mg per week.

[intel]

as i said i only have 8 weeks....is it worth it...

[intel]

PCT start times..... do i have to wait 18 days to start clomid

[intel]

what do u think of this????????? is there anything i should add........cant be more weeks

[tank2005]

first thing....you are taking too much stuff your first time....
you should just use test by itself to see how your body acts...
if something goes wrong how do you know what thing caused it..?
dont pyramid shots.....start at 500mgs of sustanon and stay like that through out the whole cycle...
you should use sustanon for 12 weeks.....too short imo..

guys i was saying 12 weeks to sort because it was ment to to be a question to the above post as he says ..........SUSTONON FOR 12 WEEKS TO START....TOO SHORT IMO ....................

[Kale]

guys i was saying 12 weeks to sort because it was ment to to be a question to the above post as he says ..........SUSTONON FOR 12 WEEKS TO START....TOO SHORT IMO ....................

Tank, I think the guy means that 8 weeks is too short and to do 12 weeks.

[juiceboxxx]

Dude you made like 3 threads asking the same questions. I think 1 was enough.

[tank2005]

Tank, I think the guy means that 8 weeks is too short and to do 12 weeks.

YA I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ,MY MISTAKE SORRY GUYS

[Kale]

YA I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ,MY MISTAKE SORRY GUYS

Dont sweat it, it wasnt written very well, I had to think about it for a while

[Booz]

if this is your 1st cycle you need to do nothing more than test 500mg 12 weeks.......nothing else....
make sure to have something on hand for gyno and bloat and have your pct ready before you start anythin just in case..........................

[SVTMuscle*]

Yeah man like all those other guys said first cycle should be nice and easy with single ester test's, but since your using Sust i'd def only do Sust 250-500mg for 10 weeks or so

[SMAN12b]

if this is your 1st cycle you need to do nothing more than test 500mg 12 weeks.......nothing else....
make sure to have something on hand for gyno and bloat and have your pct ready before you start anythin just in case..........................

IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THIS ADVICE, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING ANY OF THIS AT ALL!!!!
THIS IS FOR YOUR SAFETY!!! It sounds like you dont' have a clue and just wanting to do AAS.
What is your history of training and diet and progress to date WITHOUT aas???

[eljugo16]

bump

[intel]

the thing is i already bought the cycle.......the guy how sold it; told me to use as in the table... he said nalvadex for gyno and at the end use clomid....
so i guess 3 weeks of clomid will be my pct
nolv............for gyno

as you can see i dont know anything about it, i was reading and reading and found a lot of 8 weeks cycle (almost like mine) and they r for beginners.....

so if someone can help work with this cycle, especially the pct.. i will appreciate it...

[SMAN12b]

the thing is i already bought the cycle.......the guy how sold it; told me to use as in the table... he said nalvadex for gyno and at the end use clomid....
so i guess 3 weeks of clomid will be my pct
nolv............for gyno

as you can see i dont know anything about it, i was reading and reading and found a lot of 8 weeks cycle (almost like mine) and they r for beginners.....

so if someone can help work with this cycle, especially the pct.. i will appreciate it...

DUDE, WHAT PART DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??? you are about to put shit into your one and only body and you have NO CLUE !!! SO you already bought the stuff SO WHAT??? Save it for when you are ready for it!!!
You havae given us NO history of your tringing experience nor your diet to give you any advice except DO NOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW !!!

[intel]

to make a long story short, i was 232 one day..... now i am 190lb..


i go to the gym everyday
m: chst and bi
t : back and tri
w: shoulders and back
th: cardio
and so on............i eat 2000 calories a day
8:00 50g whey potein and glutamin
10:00 otmal
12:00 salmon..
12:30 unversal animal pak/stak2
1-2 gym
2 creatine
3 50g whey protein and pasta
4 apple
6 any kind of beef
10 tuna
12 50g whey protein

...........
flat bench 2*90lb
leg press 570lb
...........

[SMAN12b]

to make a long story short, i was 232 one day..... now i am 190lb..


i go to the gym everyday
m: chst and bi
t : back and tri
w: shoulders and back
th: cardio
and so on............i eat 2000 calories a day
8:00 50g whey potein and glutamin
10:00 otmal
12:00 salmon..
12:30 unversal animal pak/stak2
1-2 gym
2 creatine
3 50g whey protein and pasta
4 apple
6 any kind of beef
10 tuna
12 50g whey protein

...........
flat bench 2*90lb
leg press 570lb
...........

INTEL, I am really trying to be nice here... I get you are 25, and 190#. What I don't know is how long you have been training like this NATURALLY. I am not crazy about only 2000 calories if you are gonna do a cycle, you will be wasting you money IMO but then again I dont' know what your goals are out of this cycle.
IF this is gonna be your first cycle, then the ONLY way to go is TEST for 12 weeks. If you don't want to do this the right way and take the advice of ALL the PROS that are here trying to help you, then PLEASE stop asking questions here cause it doesn't sound like you are taking the time to research and understand the reasons we are telling you all this.

[MartyMcFly]

2000 cals a day?!? I am eating 2400 cals and I am on a cut. Down 25 also. i weigh 190 and i need to eat over 3200 cals to gain weight. You do not have enough for even a real eight week cycle. If your source came up with this for you he don't know shit. How are you even sure what you have is real. I wouldn't trust anything from this guy. You are going to mess yourself up bad. Go directly to diet forum and read. You eat 3500+ cals a day you will gain more than from that shit cycle.

[intel]

i have been doing this routine for 8 months now......
as of monday my diet will be 4000 calories a day .......
now about the cycle, i got it ..............i am gonna return the stuff and i will get

1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 20mgED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

whats pct gonna be?
Nol,L-dex and D-bol..daily, right?

[Liftnainez]

INTEL, I am really trying to be nice here... I get you are 25, and 190#. What I don't know is how long you have been training like this NATURALLY. I am not crazy about only 2000 calories if you are gonna do a cycle, you will be wasting you money IMO but then again I dont' know what your goals are out of this cycle.
IF this is gonna be your first cycle, then the ONLY way to go is TEST for 12 weeks. If you don't want to do this the right way and take the advice of ALL the PROS that are here trying to help you, then PLEASE stop asking questions here cause it doesn't sound like you are taking the time to research and understand the reasons we are telling you all this.

What the hell are you saying?? Firstly your 10 days old here and in every thread your TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY MUST DO... TEST ONLY is not the ONLY way to go- so dont go saying shit about only- you sound like one of those thread parrots rambling on with your know it all crap.. and stop telling him to not ask questions anymore- hes trying to learn.. so if you dont have shit to say shutup!!

[SMAN12b]

i have been doing this routine for 8 months now......
as of monday my diet will be 4000 calories a day .......
now about the cycle, i got it ..............i am gonna return the stuff and i will get

1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 20mgED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

whats pct gonna be?
Nol,L-dex and D-bol..daily, right?

WOW, I guess there is no getting through to you is there??? What do you want to get out of this cycle?????
8 months of weight training is NOTHING!!! Do you hear me NOTHING !!! You shoudl weight train and get your diet in line for a few YEARS to get you to your maximum NATURAL level before you start adding AAS!! There are many reasons for this that I will not even WASTE my time telling you because you just dont' get it!!!

Do whatever you would like, BUT PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!! You can make some nice gains if you get your diet and training on target before you try juice!! AAS is NOT a magic pill that will make up for your lack of Knowledge!!
GOOD LUCK BRO...I AM OUT !!

[Liftnainez]

i have been doing this routine for 8 months now......
as of monday my diet will be 4000 calories a day .......
now about the cycle, i got it ..............i am gonna return the stuff and i will get

1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 20mgED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

whats pct gonna be?
Nol,L-dex and D-bol..daily, right?

Cycle looks good bro.. you can lower the nolva to 10mg through out the cycle.. your also runing a-dex so 10 mg will suffice.. as for PCT def NO dbol .. you should base your pct around clomid and nolva.. others will throw in clen , proviron , etc...

[Booz]

DUDE, WHAT PART DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??? you are about to put shit into your one and only body and you have NO CLUE !!! SO you already bought the stuff SO WHAT??? Save it for when you are ready for it!!!
You havae given us NO history of your tringing experience nor your diet to give you any advice except DO NOT DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW !!!

WOW, I guess there is no getting through to you is there??? What do you want to get out of this cycle?????
8 months of weight training is NOTHING!!! Do you hear me NOTHING !!! You shoudl weight train and get your diet in line for a few YEARS to get you to your maximum NATURAL level before you start adding AAS!! There are many reasons for this that I will not even WASTE my time telling you because you just dont' get it!!!

Do whatever you would like, BUT PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!! You can make some nice gains if you get your diet and training on target before you try juice!! AAS is NOT a magic pill that will make up for your lack of Knowledge!!
GOOD LUCK BRO...I AM OUT !!

no need for this at all........................

[SMAN12b]

sorry

[Liftnainez]

thank you booz.. if you read my previous post i also commented on this guys attitude and remarks.. he sounds like a cocky a hole with no good advice to give.. like i said SMAN if you have nothing relevant to say shutup!

[Liftnainez]

My age here is no indication of how long I have been doing/researching. I am not trying to be a dick with him, BUT he is all over the board and not giving the info needed to get him the help he is asking for!! Read all the posts above before dealing me shit please!!! This guy has NO experience and is wanting US to set it all up for him and say it is OK for him to do this with NO training and NO knowledge.....Give a man a fish and he eats for ONE day, TEACH a man to fish and he never goes hundry!! SO......

oh no you flicked me off through a computer.. fuking looser.. i was commenting on your attitude and on your "ONLY TEST BULLSHIT!!" Get out of here with that parrot mindset that you read and try to pass on.. go home you retard

[Booz]

oh no you flicked me off through a computer.. fuking looser.. i was commenting on your attitude and on your "ONLY TEST BULLSHIT!!" Get out of here with that parrot mindset that you read and try to pass on.. go home you retard

ok i think you made your point...leave it be now ..................................

[Liftnainez]

no prob,will do.. just get upset when people attack others for trying to learn and ask advice.. rather than helping him he was ragging on him..

[SMAN12b]

ok i think you made your point...leave it be now ..................................

SORRY BOOZ, I was just getting frustrated because "intel" just didn't seem to want to hear what everyone was tryin to tell him and I went off. SORRY!!

[intel]

yeah, blame it on the new guy,,,,,lol
anyways...well apperantly i m not ready to use any.....so i will focus on my diet and maybe glen/T3