test only !!

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 08:08 AM

hey guys i am looking to design a bulking cycle using test only ,test enath,suspension and test prop but i am looking to run a sides free cycle so i will be using proscar 4 hairloss and accutane in case i got bad ace acne ,anyway i was thinking o running suspension at the start o my cycle and maybe prop b4 starting pct and test enath throughout the cycle ,any other ideas are welcomed ...

**SMAN12b** · 04-24-2006, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by fitguy

hey guys i am looking to design a bulking cycle using test only ,test enath,suspension and test prop but i am looking to run a sides free cycle so i will be using proscar 4 hairloss and accutane in case i got bad ace acne ,anyway i was thinking o running suspension at the start o my cycle and maybe prop b4 starting pct and test enath throughout the cycle ,any other ideas are welcomed ...

fitguy, you have been around for a while now. You should know that we need more STATS on you to properly give advice on cycles. We need: age, weight, height, years training, prior cycles, diet and goals for this cycle. With that info the pros here ( and sorry,I am NOT one of them) can give you the right direction to go. Hope this helps and Good Luck !!

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

fitguy, you have been around for a while now. You should know that we need more STATS on you to properly give advice on cycles. We need: age, weight, height, years training, prior cycles, diet and goals for this cycle. With that info the pros here ( and sorry,I am NOT one of them) can give you the right direction to go. Hope this helps and Good Luck !!

age:21
weight: 73-74kilos
prior cycles :2 test only cycles at 500mg.
height: 185 cm tall .
goals: bulking 6 or more kilos...

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 05:42 PM

why dont you just run prop at the beginning and start the pct 2 weeks after your last shot of enanthate

**Random** · 04-24-2006, 05:47 PM

if you want the less sides i would use Prop IMO...i actually get better skin when i use prop....probly cuz of the steady levels of test...

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by CaptainDominate

if you want the less sides i would use Prop IMO...i actually get better skin when i use prop....probly cuz of the steady levels of test...

suspension is a bitch, do you really want to shoot that much?

**arnold_of_malta** · 04-24-2006, 05:51 PM

even test e i never get acne whil eon it i get a few back acne when i do pct and i am acne proun i find test e very good! i love test only cycles!!!!!!

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Nelstar

suspension is a bitch, do you really want to shoot that much?

i didnt try it b4 but i have heard that it yields awesome results..

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

even test e i never get acne whil eon it i get a few back acne when i do pct and i am acne proun i find test e very good! i love test only cycles!!!!!!

yeah but i was looking 4 something to boost my gains and help me bulk..

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 06:11 PM

put some deca in that would boost you up

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Nelstar

put some deca in that would boost you up

read my previous posts..

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

read my previous posts..

what am i looking for?

**FranKieC** · 04-24-2006, 06:58 PM

Bro use either the Prop or the suspension to Kickstart the cycle. If you are looking for more mass I would recommend the suspension over the prop.

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by FranKieC

Bro use either the Prop or the suspension to Kickstart the cycle. If you are looking for more mass I would recommend the suspension over the prop.

i am gonna run test suspension with test enath 4 a kickstart and maybe some prop b4 my pct, proscar 4 hairloss and accutane 4 acne ,should i notice any hairloss or acne using these compounds and meds ?

**FranKieC** · 04-24-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

i am gonna run test suspension with test enath 4 a kickstart and maybe some prop b4 my pct, proscar 4 hairloss and accutane 4 acne ,should i notice any hairloss or acne using these compounds and meds ?

The Enthanate ester will not kick in for about 5-6 weeks so there is no way you can use this as a kickstart. Propinate and Suspension are both fast acting esters so it would be wise to use one of these for your Kicker.

You can run Dutasteride or Finisteride if you have concerns about your hair.

**Kale** · 04-24-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

i am gonna run test suspension with test enath 4 a kickstart and maybe some prop b4 my pct, proscar 4 hairloss and accutane 4 acne ,should i notice any hairloss or acne using these compounds and meds ?

Hav eyou had these issues before or is this just a precaution ? If its a precaution then its over kill in the extreme IMO

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Hav eyou had these issues before or is this just a precaution ? If its a precaution then its over kill in the extreme IMO

i have noticed hairloss with test enath b4 and i am not sure if suspension is more harsh in terms o sides ,i will be using proscar and accutane to combat hairloss and acne..

**fitguy** · 04-24-2006, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by FranKieC

The Enthanate ester will not kick in for about 5-6 weeks so there is no way you can use this as a kickstart. Propinate and Suspension are both fast acting esters so it would be wise to use one of these for your Kicker.

You can run Dutasteride or Finisteride if you have concerns about your hair.

sorry i meant the suspension...

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by FranKieC

The Enthanate ester will not kick in for about 5-6 weeks so there is no way you can use this as a kickstart. Propinate and Suspension are both fast acting esters so it would be wise to use one of these for your Kicker.

You can run Dutasteride or Finisteride if you have concerns about your hair.

5-6 weeks? i notice at the end of 2??

**FranKieC** · 04-24-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Nelstar

5-6 weeks? i notice at the end of 2??

I guess everyone is different. I have never noticed the effects until about the fifth week. I can also speak for my friends (many who are vets on here) have the same results.

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 07:40 PM

i gotcha, how come you start pct after the 2week, wouldnt that be the halflife of enanthate thus proving its stable and active upon week two being the hormone has already been though its life

**FranKieC** · 04-24-2006, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nelstar

i gotcha, how come you start pct after the 2week, wouldnt that be the halflife of enanthate thus proving its stable and active upon week two being the hormone has already been though its life

I usually start 21 days after last shot..Where did I say 2 weeks?

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 07:47 PM

you didnt bro... i used you as a general refrence, im gonna look into it, its very possible ive been wrong for 6 years, ill be starting a cycle soon ill log it

**FranKieC** · 04-24-2006, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Nelstar

you didnt bro... i used you as a general refrence, im gonna look into it, its very possible ive been wrong for 6 years, ill be starting a cycle soon ill log it

I thought I made a typo I wanted to edit it. I know people who start 14 days after last shot also. I guess it's all in what works for you.

**Nelstar** · 04-24-2006, 07:50 PM

i hear ya, theres no doubt people respond differently, ive always been very sensitive to aas, what is the actual half-life of the enanthate ester?

**FranKieC** · 04-24-2006, 07:54 PM

Check this out..I'm going to bed..Nite

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nate+half+life

**Kale** · 04-24-2006, 10:19 PM

This is easier to understand, from Pheedno

PCT start times
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca : 21 days after last injection
Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 06:40 AM

now back to my question!!

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 11:06 AM

2 - 4 weeks test susp 50mg ed ..
1-12 test enath at 500mg ,might bump the dose to 750mg if i needed to .. PCT 2 weeks ater last shot o test e... i will have Proscar 4 hairloss and accutane 4 acne, should i notice any hairloss or acne while using these meds rom test susp? any comments are appreciated..

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 01:42 PM

bump

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 04:05 PM

bump!!!!!!!!

**Nelstar** · 04-25-2006, 04:45 PM

looks good bro,
the 500mg a week, youre spacing that like monday/weds or something?
myself id hit the 750 right from the start but its up to you
maybe pick up an anti-e like tamox or something

sorry i stole your thread

**arnold_of_malta** · 04-25-2006, 04:47 PM

test suspension i was reading it is horrible for acne is it true????????????????????????

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Nelstar

looks good bro,
the 500mg a week, youre spacing that like monday/weds or something?
myself id hit the 750 right from the start but its up to you
maybe pick up an anti-e like tamox or something

sorry i stole your thread

thanks for the reply bro ,the 500mg will be one shot every week ,shall i notice any hairloss or acne while using finasteride and accutane ??

**Random** · 04-25-2006, 05:41 PM

you still Can lose hair with test even when using finasteride..i would get some dutasteride if youre worried about hairloss..its much more effective...

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by CaptainDominate

you still Can lose hair with test even when using finasteride..i would get some dutasteride if youre worried about hairloss..its much more effective...

how can someone loose hair while using finasteride? doesnt finasteride block the dht formed by test ..

**Nelstar** · 04-25-2006, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by arnold_of_malta

test suspension i was reading it is horrible for acne is it true????????????????????????

i never noticed it, but i never get any anyways... i guess its all in how you respond to it

**Testostack** · 04-25-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by fitguy

age:21
weight: 73-74kilos
prior cycles :2 test only cycles at 500mg.
height: 185 cm tall .
goals: bulking 6 or more kilos...

21?? 75 kg roughly.........how long have ya been lifting?
You got plenty of time to grow natural B4 even thinking about juicing.....
I'm 23 never juiced, and still growing bigger every month....
I think you might want to review diet/busting your ass at the gym.....or you have serious genetics issues....not being hard on you, but jmo....

**Testostack** · 04-25-2006, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by FranKieC

Check this out..I'm going to bed..Nite

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nate+half+life

Very good idea bro! me too.....cardio day tomorrow and that SUCKS........so good night everybody........gotta get some zzzzzz

**fitguy** · 04-25-2006, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Testostack

21?? 75 kg roughly.........how long have ya been lifting?
You got plenty of time to grow natural B4 even thinking about juicing.....
I'm 23 never juiced, and still growing bigger every month....
I think you might want to review diet/busting your ass at the gym.....or you have serious genetics issues....not being hard on you, but jmo....

bro you can check my previous post ,i have my pics posted here and i look heavier than what i look,a lot of skinnier guys 180plus lbs but they are smaller than me ,my diet is posted here too and i gain so hard ,anyway i am gonna do this cycle and that wasnt my question ...