Scammer A$$ Friend

**Jredwine** · 04-26-2006, 08:48 PM

Gotta f#$$@ up situation here. A source I've used before who (was) a long time friend appears to have pulling some shit with me. 6 weeks ago I got some Test E from him and it came in a 20mL vial. He said he pulled out 10 for himself. No biggie I thought, as he is a pretty good friend and is around my group of friends all the time. I certiainly had no reason to not trust him. (I went to high school with the guy and have known him for close to 20 years.) Well I ran the ran test E for 6 weeks now.

Now I have run test E before and i know the increase in libido is almost instant for me. Everything has been different this time. Decrease in libido, not much water gain, not much of anything other than some decrease in libido. Not conclusive proof yet though I know.

Well, I tell him I want to run it out a little longer and I need some more. He tells me he can hook me up. I meet up with him and he tries to sell me some water-based test suspension (Aquatest) to finish off. (WTF? Run test E for 6 then 6 of test susp.)

Doesn't sound right, plus I do just fine off test E, no need for painful ass shots. (literally!) So we change plans and he will get me a the other 10 mL's of test E.

At this point I was already getting nervous.

So he meets me again with the "supposed" other 10 of test E. The supposed test E has now magically changed from oil-based to water-based. Hmmm.. this looks a lot like the Aquatest he tried to sell me weeks earlier. At this point I know he's a fu$#@in' liar.

Basically he took an old 20mL vial and shot the Aquatest into, selling me the same shit I told him a week earlier I didn't want.

I gotta figure out what to do with this motherf$#%er, but I am gonna save that for later.

Well now I've told my story, and on to my question.

How can I find out exactly what I've been using for 6 weeks?

Here are some of my options:

1. I have a very little amount of the old stuff (maybe an 1/8 a cc) can I test it??

2. Can I get a blood test to find out?

3. Could I get a drug test done? (Without getting myself busted?? That might get ya a Darwin Award!)

4. Based off of symptoms. (ie. low libido, shrunken balls, some puffines in nips - no lumps just water/fat gain in the area/very minor, haven't seen much in strength or weight gains)

I am guessing it may be Deca as i know he tried to sell me some. Any ideas?

Thanks!

**Nelstar** · 04-26-2006, 08:53 PM

find a new source

20ml of test suspension isnt going to last long as far as testing i never been down that road. Bro's always say get enough of everything before you start your cycle incase something like this happends... but in your case i doubt it would of made a difference

**lucabratzi** · 04-26-2006, 08:53 PM

there is a lab to send it to...srcs i beleive it is..but u need more then an eigth cc...u can get a blood test depending on what state ur in...possibly is deca ...but who knows...

**Jredwine** · 04-26-2006, 08:58 PM

Anyone have any ideas on getting blood tests done???

**thegodfather** · 04-26-2006, 09:01 PM

A blood test could be one route...But you need a gram of total weight to send to SRCS I believe is what he told me.. 2-5CC's...so I doubt you'll be able to test that, however you should e-mail them and see if they can do anything with your 1/8CC, my guess is if this guy is as shady as he sounds, he's been selling you cooking oil, or something that is NOT Test E.

About a year ago I ordered several bottles of Test E from a source who turned scammer shortly after (DaV****) for those who know him. It was basically as you described, but Id really call it a bottle full of side effects. Dont know what was in it, but it gave me a shitload of paranoia. It would be in your best interests, both financially AND healthwise, to cut out this middle man and deal directly with sources. The more hands your gear passes through the more likely you are to get ripped.

**lucabratzi** · 04-26-2006, 09:01 PM

get ur blood test done...if ur t-levels are way above normal then ur fine...i think u want free test, total test, there's a few more someone help me out..

**thegodfather** · 04-26-2006, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Jredwine

Anyone have any ideas on getting blood tests done???

goto your doctor and ask him to give you a blood test for test levels, estrogen, etc...if your test is off the charts you'll know its real, if not, then you'll know its fake. Also, get your prolactin levels checked, as I have a suspicion that your boy might have given you deca instead of test.

**IBdmfkr** · 04-26-2006, 09:10 PM

Never buy unsealed vials, I don't care who is selling them to you. I'm sorry, that's a given.

**Jredwine** · 04-26-2006, 09:11 PM

cool..I emailed srcs and will try that. Will also get my test, est, and prolactin levels checked.

Thanks for the help Luca and Godfather!

**LX-1** · 04-26-2006, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jredwine

Gotta f#$$@ up situation here. A source I've used before who (was) a long time friend appears to have pulling some shit with me. 6 weeks ago I got some Test E from him and it came in a 20mL vial. He said he pulled out 10 for himself. No biggie I thought, as he is a pretty good friend and is around my group of friends all the time. I certiainly had no reason to not trust him. (I went to high school with the guy and have known him for close to 20 years.) Well I ran the ran test E for 6 weeks now.

Now I have run test E before and i know the increase in libido is almost instant for me. Everything has been different this time. Decrease in libido, not much water gain, not much of anything other than some decrease in libido. Not conclusive proof yet though I know.

Well, I tell him I want to run it out a little longer and I need some more. He tells me he can hook me up. I meet up with him and he tries to sell me some water-based test suspension (Aquatest) to finish off. (WTF? Run test E for 6 then 6 of test susp.)

Doesn't sound right, plus I do just fine off test E, no need for painful ass shots. (literally!) So we change plans and he will get me a the other 10 mL's of test E.

At this point I was already getting nervous.

So he meets me again with the "supposed" other 10 of test E. The supposed test E has now magically changed from oil-based to water-based. Hmmm.. this looks a lot like the Aquatest he tried to sell me weeks earlier. At this point I know he's a fu$#@in' liar.

Basically he took an old 20mL vial and shot the Aquatest into, selling me the same shit I told him a week earlier I didn't want.

I gotta figure out what to do with this motherf$#%er, but I am gonna save that for later.

Well now I've told my story, and on to my question.

How can I find out exactly what I've been using for 6 weeks?

Here are some of my options:

1. I have a very little amount of the old stuff (maybe an 1/8 a cc) can I test it??

2. Can I get a blood test to find out?

3. Could I get a drug test done? (Without getting myself busted?? That might get ya a Darwin Award!)

4. Based off of symptoms. (ie. low libido, shrunken balls, some puffines in nips - no lumps just water/fat gain in the area/very minor, haven't seen much in strength or weight gains)

I am guessing it may be Deca as i know he tried to sell me some. Any ideas?

Thanks!

that sucks, test is so cheap, dont see why he would do that. dont bother spending the money for a test, get a new source.

**Jredwine** · 04-26-2006, 09:17 PM

Turns out he's a poor bastard that needs money no matter how he gets it. I think he's going through some shit right now. He really isn't that type of person at all. He has done this in the past more or less as a friend type deal. Lesson Learned the hard/naive way!!

**IBdmfkr** · 04-26-2006, 09:26 PM

Ppl like this piss me off.. If one of my friends needs money I'd much rather them ask me as I'd give it willingly than to steal from me like your buddy did. I'd have to say he needs to be punished.

**goosed** · 04-26-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Ppl like this piss me off.. If one of my friends needs money I'd much rather them ask me as I'd give it willingly than to steal from me like your buddy did. I'd have to say he needs to be punished.

your 100% right! he gets what he needs and you dont get something you dont need! plus it saves the friendship!

**tvd220** · 04-26-2006, 11:00 PM

thats what we call burning bridges

**thegodfather** · 04-27-2006, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Ppl like this piss me off.. If one of my friends needs money I'd much rather them ask me as I'd give it willingly than to steal from me like your buddy did. I'd have to say he needs to be punished.

I agree...he should rip out a fingernail with needle nose plyers for every week that he shot the bunk gear.

**Reprisal 6** · 04-27-2006, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Jredwine

Turns out he's a poor bastard that needs money no matter how he gets it. I think he's going through some shit right now. He really isn't that type of person at all. He has done this in the past more or less as a friend type deal. Lesson Learned the hard/naive way!!

Drugs/money sure do have a way of bringing out the worst in people.
Sorry about that.

**Booz** · 04-27-2006, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Never buy unsealed vials, I don't care who is selling them to you. I'm sorry, that's a given.

very sound advice IBD..........

**LX-1** · 04-27-2006, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by Reprisal 6

Drugs/money sure do have a way of bringing out the worst in people.

very true...................

**Xprime** · 04-27-2006, 07:06 AM

find a new source; they are not safe at all.

**Jredwine** · 05-01-2006, 10:58 PM

Just a quick update....

i got my Total Test levels, Liver Function test (Dr wanted to do this although I told him test E shouldn't have much effect on this), and a lipid profile done as I have high cholesterol.

Turns out it was Test E I had been taking as my total test levels were at 1292ng/dl 7 days after my 5th shot of 500mgs of Test E.

Just a side note...when my cholesterol levels were checked pre-cycle they were at 292 total with HDL's at 40...

Well now 6 weeks into a Test E bulking cycle and 15lbs later they are actually DOWN!!! Total was 242 and HDL's were 44!! I have been supplementing with 3000mgs of fish oil.

So it turns out my friend may just be in need of money and may not have a very good source himself, but it does not appear he tried to rip me off.

I thought it was interesting though the decline in Cholesterol as with mine being high, I was concerned about this when originally planning a cycle.

**Oki-Des** · 05-02-2006, 06:03 AM

Dont bother getting it tested. You already know it is not real and your so called friend will just say he did not know and that he bought it that way.