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    Cool who draws w 18guage

    I am starting a 120 day cycle with 120 shots. Does anyone here draw with an 18 guage to load say up to 3-4 darts at a time?

    I ran into a situation in the lab where I was using an 18 guage and it took a flake of the rubber off and I can see it in the bottom...Is this likely to occur with the above?

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    I should have, its hard as hell to draw with a 23!

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    Just make sure to switch the needle before you inject.

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    o yeah youll totally compromise the rubber stopper... just like my glute when i shot with an 18g on a dare

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    I do it all the time 18g or 19g is the shit, takes a couple of seconds

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    I draw with 22g... not bad at all... doesn't fuk up the stopper and it doesn't take too long to draw with....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    I do it all the time 18g or 19g is the shit, takes a couple of seconds
    wow mine just destroy the stopper.. its like jamming a pencil in it

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    I use a 23 guage and it seems like it takes way too long.

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    if u are shooting everyday from a decent size vial u will not want to use an 18g to draw with... U will fuk up the rubber stopper...

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    u r crazy foo'...shooting with a nail size needle!!! That must of hurt like a biznatch...I'll be shooting with an 23g 1.5 for quads and glutes and a 25g 1" for shoulders and triceps.

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    o yeah it sucked... i can assure you, never ever do it. Its not even smooth it just hurts, it brought tears to my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    if u are shooting everyday from a decent size vial u will not want to use an 18g to draw with... U will fuk up the rubber stopper...
    50 cc vial...is that considered decent size? Perhaps I should load up some 10ml bottles out of the 50?

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    50cc will break down.. the most youll get is 10 good sticks with an 18g before it leaks.

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    for the first draw I loaded the 18g in the vial and kept it in while loading a few darts...

    Then did the same for the remaining two compounds to cut down on the number of times the needle penetrates the rubber...

    Maybe i'll mix it up a bit and switch between 23 and 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by jef
    I use a 23 guage and it seems like it takes way too long.
    Well I have just been through a whole bottle of Prop and many other things in the past with no issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelstar
    50cc will break down.. the most youll get is 10 good sticks with an 18g before it leaks.
    if 10 is all I get I probably should send to 10ml vials or just suck it up and load with 23 guage and have no problems...just takes so damn long!@#$%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Well I have just been through a whole bottle of Prop and many other things in the past with no issues
    the problem I have is that I'm injecting prop,tren and eq...I don't mind drawing with a 23 if it's only say; prop, but all 3 turns into a hassle...maybe it won't be too bad since I'll only need to load the eq a couple times a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jef
    the problem I have is that I'm injecting prop,tren and eq...I don't mind drawing with a 23 if it's only say; prop, but all 3 turns into a hassle...maybe it won't be too bad since I'll only need to load the eq a couple times a week.

    Bro... whatever u r going to load up with put in a tupperware bowl of hot water for 5 mins.... then remove each vial from the bowl as u draw from it... I have drawn with a 25g in a pinch this way with 3 compounds and no problems....

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    Bro... whatever u r going to load up with put in a tupperware bowl of hot water for 5 mins.... then remove each vial from the bowl as u draw from it... I have drawn with a 25g in a pinch this way with 3 compounds and no problems....
    that sounds good...I'll try that. I have been putting the vials on the top of a medicine cabinet that has some higher output bulps a few inches above that for about 20 minutes and that seemed to help.

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    off topic: this is my first time with tren ace./ going 50mg ed for 6-8 weeks...if it's a solid purity say 99% pure out of a lab, would the side effects still be the same with finaplix ? At 50mg should the sides be minimal if any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jef
    the problem I have is that I'm injecting prop,tren and eq...I don't mind drawing with a 23 if it's only say; prop, but all 3 turns into a hassle...maybe it won't be too bad since I'll only need to load the eq a couple times a week.
    Why is it a hassle, I do Deca , Test E and Test Prop all in one shot drawn from two vials and an amp, I have no idea why you think that is a hassle

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    I usually don't mind drawing with a 23. I've even drawn with 25's before.
    I don't buy 18's because they only serve one purpose. I just stock up on 23's and 25's, since you can shoot and draw with both. You just have to be patient.

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    Push air into the vial before drawing with the small gauges and it will help

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    18 gauge should be fine; just like with the injectable needles, keep a sharp one on to prevent your problem of the rubber flaking off. As a nurse, I have never encountered this problem on the job. You could have had a defective rubber stopper to begin with. Be sure to wipe the top with alcohol before withdrawing, to keep your syringe as sterile as possible. Allow 30 sec to dry.

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    I draw with a 21G and inject with a 23G or 25G.

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    18 gauge destroys the stoppers half way through a vial.

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    first cycle i did it with 23 g that took forever. Not 18 guage u can suck up anything nice and easy...

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    I use 22's. They don't trash the rubber stopper in my large multi-dose vials. And they draw pretty quickly. I guess I am patient in that regard. And it beats having rubber floating in the vial 35ml into a 50ml vial. Or, god forbid, a bigger vial. Not that I have ever seen one of those.

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    draw with 21's
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    I used to draw with 18g but the hole it made in the rubber stopper on my vials meant it wud very slowly ooze out if it was on its side!

    It is quick though.

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    My Doc draws with an 18. Her stupid nurse jabbed it in my glute. I did not even know till she told me.

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    I use an 18ga to draw and a 23ga to shoot and i never have a problem with the stopper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jef
    I am starting a 120 day cycle with 120 shots. Does anyone here draw with an 18 guage to load say up to 3-4 darts at a time?

    I ran into a situation in the lab where I was using an 18 guage and it took a flake of the rubber off and I can see it in the bottom...Is this likely to occur with the above?

    ...........lol.......... i draw with 18 gauge but carefully.

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    what is the rush peeps i dont care how long it takes im not going to a fire i like to take my time .but i use 22g 1 1/2 but prefer 25g 1

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    Too bad you never get so much info on something that's actually important. 18g 1.5 inch tips I buy for 11 cents a piece. It's retarded to buy a whole outfit to be drawing with. Where ever you get your pins they probably have the 18 g tips, they dont' even make 18 g outfits, you'd have to be retarded or polish to shoot with an 18, I almost did by accident but this is why you shouldnt smoke weed before you inject. I've never heard of a problem occuring with too many 18's drawing. I don't understand why people just don't preload 50 pins, they're the most sterile thing, **** 10ml bottles, just preload 25 then do the other 25 later. Using a 25 to draw is retarded, you'll know why once you use an 18 and it takes a second, rather than 2 minutes to pull up a cc of juice with a 25. considering it costs me 39 cents for an outfit 21-25 gauge and 11 cents for a drawer, I just go with a new 11 cent drawer each time. You have to push air into the vial regardless of what size pin. If you don't believe me suck up some test, then suck up some winny and let to of the plunger for a second and watch all the shit get sucked into your winny bottle.

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    i like 20ga to draw and 23ga to stick!!!

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    first time i cycled i used a 18g DAMN THAT. i know use the 18 to suck out and a 23 to shoot.

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