damn ( gyno )

**PsychoBB** · 06-12-2002, 09:19 AM

Hi guys,
I am so unfortunate that i now, 2 month after my cycle got gyno. I should get my nolva later today and start right away.
But if it does not work and i have the operation, will i be able to get gyno anymore or am i in the clear?? iwant to start my new cycle soon and i was wondering, can i start a new cycle, while battleing my gyno with nolva??? or should i wait till nolva has done its job???

Thanks P-BB

PS. can anybody tell me about the opration??

**Pete235** · 06-12-2002, 09:22 AM

If you already have the gyno only surgery will remove it. As far as your next cycle, it's pretty obvious that you are prone to gyno so yes, nolvadex is a must. I would run it @ 20mg/day for you entire cycle.

**PsychoBB** · 06-12-2002, 09:35 AM

I do not have visable gyno only snall lunps under the skin around the nipples

***Shredz*** · 06-12-2002, 09:36 AM

Just to add to what pete is saying..yes when you do you next cycle I aslo agree with the nolvadex @ 20mg/day, but by reading your post..it sounds like you are going from one cycle right into the next. Remember the rule of thumb.

TIME ON = TIME OFF

take some time off before you start your next cycle. You need to let you receptor sites clear out so that you will get some good results from your next cycle.

Just my 2 cents

**ripped_82** · 06-12-2002, 10:27 AM

What about Arimidex . That will be the best in my opinion, and have Nolva on hand

**bigboyfromamass** · 06-12-2002, 11:03 AM

if using arimidex would you still need nova?

**PsychoBB** · 06-12-2002, 11:16 AM

Of cause im doing time on = time off

Now i just cant deside wheter to rip or bulk on my upcomming 2nd cycle.

D-bol 20mg/ed 1-4
Sust 250 250mg/ew 1-10
EQ 300mg/ew 1-10
winny inj. 50mg/eod 8-13
clomid post cycle
proviron 50mg ed 1-13
nolvadex on hand

I grew like weed from 200mg deca and 200mg cyp ganing 35#.
what should i expect from mu 2nd cycle?

thanks P-BB

**PaPaPumP** · 06-12-2002, 11:53 PM

You should expect how much you put into it. If you train hard and eat well, like it sounds you did on your first cycle. . .then you expect splendid results. That looks like a very well thought out cycle. Nice use of fast acting esters. However, I would drop the dbol the first four weeks, just so you can take a break from 17aa's. I'd say with diet in check , training, and resting well, you can get whatever you want (within limits of course) from that cycle. Go get em tiger.

rpd82: Arimidex doesn't always work. Nolva works way better for me than arimidex does. And yes, if you are using arimidex , you still need nolva. That is one thing I would not start a cycle without. Clomid is a close second.

**rybee10** · 06-13-2002, 12:55 AM

My budy just had the surgury and the doctor told him that he did not have to worry about it anymore and that it is not possible to get it again. Is that BS?

**BASK8KACE** · 06-14-2002, 11:18 AM

PsychoBB,

Can you tell us what cycle you did and what you took between your last dose of AS and the onset of gyno 2 months later?

This will help others avoid the same mistake.

I hope all goes well clearing-up the gyno.

**PsychoBB** · 06-14-2002, 11:39 AM

In respond to you BASK8ACE

my cycle went like this.

d-bol 35mg/ed 1-5
deca 200mg/ew 1-7 ( 8-12 400mg )
test cyp 200mg/ew 1-12
hcg 2000iu/ew 13-15
NO CLOMID
NO PROVIRON
AND NO NOLVADEX

that is a big no no.

I have kept the doses low in my 2nd cycle, because i grew like weed on my first cycle. from like 75 to 94 kg and i got some nasty stretchmarks, but you have to take the good with bad i reccon.

Ps. got my nolva form my doctor today and im am going to take 80mg day one 40 till sympthoms go away and then i hope that i am in the clear.