help with this cycle?

[okBornTxraised]

I did some research on different websites but ppl say diff things. My goals are to get gain lean mass while keeping the water retention low and avoiding the puffy face. Im going for the ripped look, but still want to gain that size. I was thinking on using Eq or deca stacking it with dbol ,tren ,test? can someone give me a sample of what this might look like in a cycle? Do i need any anti estro during this cycle to avoid puffyness?

[2.minutes]

and again wuts ur states and cycle history??

[Bigmax]

Ditto!!!!!!!!!

[IronAdam]

Deca /Dbol =bad for cutting. Tren , test, eq, winny = good for cutting. You've got a lot to learn man...stick around and read. Use the search function to answer your basic questions.

[Bigmax]

You know he does,he didnt even place his stats.Read some of the stickies okborn.

[okBornTxraised]

I just have never wanted to get ripped and gain size and strength the same time. My stats well im around 280 @ 20 % i am 21. Ive already got some 20 ml of eq, I would like to gain strength,size,and be ripped up while keeping it safe. Ive never had real problems with side affects. About a year ago i ran test/deca for 5 weeks and eq for 5. thats about the largest cycle ive done =x

[taiboxa]

I just have never wanted to get ripped and gain size and strength the same time. My stats well im around 280 @ 20 % i am 21. Ive already got some 20 ml of eq, I would like to gain strength,size,and be ripped up while keeping it safe. Ive never had real problems with side affects. About a year ago i ran test/deca for 5 weeks and eq for 5. thats about the largest cycle ive done =x

i think u shud check out the diet forum by all means.. ur knowledge is zip to known on aas and i gurantee you ur diet isnt there either..
once u get ur diet down then start researching basics of aas in the profile and educational threads.

[okBornTxraised]

my Diet is clean for example 12 egg whites w/ steel cut oats no condiments. ever. chickenw/ brocoli any way u get my point 400 g protien, 100 g of starchy carbs under 40 g fat. You were saying?

[taiboxa]

my Diet is clean for example 12 egg whites w/ steel cut oats no condiments. ever. chickenw/ brocoli any way u get my point 400 g protien, 100 g of starchy carbs under 40 g fat. You were saying?

bf just seems so high.. thats why i presumed your diet was off track
if this is ur first cycle .. do your self a HUGE favor and run test alone for 12 weeks preferably an enanthate ester then once u get a better understanding of how test affects you and how other AAS work then u can start stacking.

[okBornTxraised]

Ok so how would you suggest i run this and for how long? and what kind of test e or c? btw this is not my first cycle.
I just started dieting 4 weeks ago. I do strong man with powerlifting. now i want to get ripped and and big.

[taiboxa]

Ok so how would you suggest i run this and for how long? and what kind of test e or c? btw this is not my first cycle.
I just started dieting 4 weeks ago. I do strong man with powerlifting. now i want to get ripped and and big.

i would run TestE or C .. either or they are practically same thing for 16 weeks and EQ for 15 weeks..
run test at 500 or 750 and EQ at 600

[gabriel595]

God gave us one mouth to speak and TWO ears to listen. listen first. your last cycle sucked, big time. you need alot to learn, we all do, some more some less. if your diet is ok like you've posted before, then focus on your cardio and cut up before you start your cycle and keep doing it during your course. listen to tai's advice, he knows what he says.

[taiboxa]

God gave us one mouth to speak and TWO ears to listen. listen first. your last cycle sucked, big time. you need alot to learn, we all do, some more some less. if your diet is ok like you've posted before, then focus on your cardio and cut up before you start your cycle and keep doing it during your course. listen to tai's advice, he knows what he says.

my mother used to say that to me all the time... too bad it went in one ear and out the other

[gabriel595]

my mother used to say that to me all the time... too bad it went in one ear and out the other

that happens bro, the best thing of making mistakes is that their is always a second chance. i heard it on tv but it does work! haha

[Bigmax]

For some reason(no offense) I dont believe this guy's diet is that clean in the first place.And he seems to not have aclue.good luck Tai...LOL